What about repeatedly lying to the stewards to try and get more points?
What about repeatedly lying to the stewards to try and get more points?
dont think he betrayed his team .. he wanted out of his williams contrat , and he paid for the privilage out of his own pocket .
And for the 1st year (2004) it payed off , in 2005 onwards the car was a dog , but he stuck with it untill it was bought out by brawn ..rest is history
In hindsight ... not a bad call ?
And for the 1st year (2004) it payed off , in 2005 onwards the car was a dog , but he stuck with it untill it was bought out by brawn ..rest is history
In hindsight ... not a bad call ?
Do you know actually what incident I am talking about
? The one where he left honda to JOIN Williams again. He ended up with massive egg on his face.
This is what I don't understand.
Why would they assume Kubica, Alonso, and Massa would pit and at the same time bring Mark Webber into the equation. The data showed Button was looking good on one set. It just doesn't make sense, the call was terrible.
but there you go that's racing
oh that was definately one of the most strange decisions in recent F1, button effectively ended up being williams' third biggest sponsor that year by the time he'd bought his contract back off williams
Just quoting this incase you missed it Alan.
Yup sorry , just looked on net my bad been up for waaay to long , need sleep
does bold type mean you are shouting at me ? if so thats just mean
That is a different point. I am talking about people praising Button for his professionalism despite him making some huge errors of judgement in his time.
Since we are talking about the radios so much, did anyone else enjoy Alonso telling his race engineer that he didn't want to know how close Hamilton was? I had a good laugh at that, not quite moment of the race for me, that was Di Grassi getting one back against Schumacher.
F1 forum just reminded me about Saubers wing failures, looking at it the wing fell off Kobayashi's car in the same way it did during free practice, there was a clean break part of the way down the support struts. Massive shunt though, so lucky nobody was hurt. I do think we should call him kamikaze Kamui Kobayashi though, even if it wasn't his fault, just because it's the perfect nickname.
F1 forum just reminded me about Saubers wing failures, looking at it the wing fell off Kobayashi's car in the same way it did during free practice, there was a clean break part of the way down the support struts. Massive shunt though, so lucky nobody was hurt. I do think we should call him kamikaze Kamui Kobayashi though, even if it wasn't his fault, just because it's the perfect nickname.
It's bold so you definitely read that point!
What a race, incidents everywhere. Have to say Webber had a shocker of a race, he made too many mistakes and I did want him to win. I had a very strong feeling that Vettel wouldn't win the race and would spin off, I was right but not in the sense that he made a mistake.
Button drove a great race, as did Alonso even though he made that first corner boo boo. Kubica was the un-sung hero, he drove fantastically, getting a mediocre car into a good position for the whole race.
But, the highlight for me was Di Grassi sticking it back up the inside of Schumacher and Algersuari banging wheels with Schumacher also. Have to say it, though I already knew it, Schumacher is just gonna wish he didn't come back. He's just showing everyone that he's not as great as his statistics show, he obviously thought he would be competitive and to be fair he would of been had Alonso not caused the first corner incident.
Also, Kobayashi, I think he took a knock which took off the front wing, I don't think it was an outright front wing failure, but it was a hell of a smash!
Only 1 SC for Albert Park? That's a record low isn't it?
Alot of overtaking, but somewhat activated by the rain, just shows that when the cars rely on mechanical grip more than aero grip, there is more action. It's a no brainer really.
Button drove a great race, as did Alonso even though he made that first corner boo boo. Kubica was the un-sung hero, he drove fantastically, getting a mediocre car into a good position for the whole race.
But, the highlight for me was Di Grassi sticking it back up the inside of Schumacher and Algersuari banging wheels with Schumacher also. Have to say it, though I already knew it, Schumacher is just gonna wish he didn't come back. He's just showing everyone that he's not as great as his statistics show, he obviously thought he would be competitive and to be fair he would of been had Alonso not caused the first corner incident.
Also, Kobayashi, I think he took a knock which took off the front wing, I don't think it was an outright front wing failure, but it was a hell of a smash!
Only 1 SC for Albert Park? That's a record low isn't it?
Alot of overtaking, but somewhat activated by the rain, just shows that when the cars rely on mechanical grip more than aero grip, there is more action. It's a no brainer really.
I beg to differ. I think it tells us a lot about Hamilton.
I don't care what it says about Hamilton, that's not the point. I am highlighting the fact that no driver is whiter than white.
Yes, yes!
Both moments gave me a good laugh.
McLaren do f**k things up quite often when things didn't go according to plan~
Well Button treats his tyres with some respect, unlike Hamilton. Button's textbook silky smooth style suits the soft tyre better than Hamilton's "Senna-like aggression". Also, Hamilton is better in the wet than almost anyone else on the grid, the only other driver that comes close to Hamilton in the wet on the current grid is Alonso IMO.
We all make errors ..me more than most , but he has grown into a cool calm and collected racing driver , with balls !
Hope lewis can do the same
Intrepid ..i sense you are not a Button fan
going to get a few hour sleep .. great thread tho
I wouldn't say Jenson has balls... he doesn't stick it up the inside like Hamilton or Alonso would, that's balls.
I don't think Hamilton was all that bad on tyres. His was lapping very quickly on a set of tyres that had spent most of the race in dirty air and overtaking etc... which puts huge strain on them. Button had the luxury of clear air.
I'm not so sure, look at the wing supports and you can see a very clean break on the one that didn't take an impact in the accident. The break is exactly the same as the one in free practice when the wing failed, it's in the same place and it's the same shape. It didn't look like he had any obvious damage either, Schumachers wing stayed on despite his contact causing heavy damage to it.
Now now. Brazil 09. That drive needed some pretty good balls.
That is not true. We all know Hamilton is a lot more aggresive on his tires. He squeezes everything out of them but also kills them way too fast.
I don't mind Button at all, just people forget so easily about certain lwos points in all drivers histories while always highlighting Hamilton's
Hamilton got into that phase of following another car closely, after he pitted anyway, and his rear tyres were pretty shot. We all know Hamilton uses his tyres up alot quicker than Button, so the only way to keep Hamilton into the picture was to pit him for tyres, if he was struggling with tyres both times before and after he stopped, it was obvious it was the right thing to do, to bring him in. If your tyres have gone off, you will only lose time staying out, regardless of traffic/clean air.
umm... putting Hamilton and White in the same sentence... I can't help but think of something else~
He wasn't struggling. He was lapping at a perfectly decent pace. He went wide lost a bit of time and was instantly on the back of Kubica. Also he doesn't use his tyres up a lot quicker. It's a myth not backed up by recent races.
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