Put it this way - Duke Nukem Forever never happened, and it took 6 years for GTPSP to be released. Also the developers of LFS have given us great new patches recently - not all games have free major patches. If you think that this is rubbish, think about it. We got a new car shadow rendering system, custom textured numberplates, custom textured wheels and loads more. PLEASE appreciate the fact that there are only three developers compared to the massive teams who worked on GTPSP and Duke Nukem Forever (Did Not Finish). I am just fed up of people complaining about the development speed of LFS - it isn't that bad at all. Just three people created a game with the best physics out there. Three. If you don't like it, then why are you still here and complaining. Sorry for the rant, but I have had enough of this constant complaining and whinging.