But aren't the green flags always waved when SC comes in, isn't that the right procedure? And the message "SC In this lap" and all that... That doesn't mean they are good to go racing, it's just mean that he's getting out of the way cause it's the finish of the final lap.. it would mean racing and all, if it wasn't final.
No Boris, the green flags are not ALWAYS waved when the SC comes in. They usually are, but on the very special occasions when the race finishes under safety car conditions, green flags are NOT waved when the safety car comes in because the track is still under safety car conditions... that's has happened before, but it didn't this time. That means that safety car conditions were over and the race did not finish under safety car conditions.
Not that you will listen, I get the impression you are trolling big time...
In any circumstances there should be a difference between SC coming in because the track is clear, and SC coming in for pure procedural reason.
Think about it, race drivers are almost hard wired to the idea that Green flag means it is safe, means you are now racing, and racing means taking every opportunity to gain position, if overtaking is not allowed there really should still be a yellow flag...
Just checking some pictures of Australia 2009, SC boards remained even after the final lap, the whole out-lap when drivers cruise to the park ferme.. So, it should've been like that this year too then.. i'm just wondering if that SC line has to with anything and this year beeing different.
Alonso wasnt going anywhere untill he saw Schumacher along side. He put the boot in smartish & the backend got loose, after he'd realised MC was racing him to the line.
this is some serious bull. It was a legal move acoording to their own f'ing rules. It's not like a drive through where the effect of the penalty is debateable. It is very cut and dried as to what the effect of the penalty was. Just admit you made a mistake and fix it goddamnit!
Ok, the fact is, SC got into the pits in Australia too.. can you show me what was the procedure then, did he went in with lights on, was there a "SC in this lap" message or what.. it can't be that he just went in without anyone knowing
no they arent
green flags are waved when the track is clear not when the safety car comes in for whatever reason like for example if the safety car has engine problems
come on this isnt rocket science were trying to get into your skull here
green flags means the track is clear and the race is on and thats all there is to it
Yeah, i saw those pictures... guys, i'm not trying to drive all you crazy here it's just that we're having discussion on our local forum, with some people really into F1, old-school guys.. and i just wanna find out who's right here, they, or you.. They're saying the reason the boards and yellows remained in Australia 2009, was because there was no Safety car Line at the box entrance like this year, in 2009 that "line" was at the end of the lap, meaning SC conditions remained till start/finish line, untill the first car crosses it, but because this year that's not the case, the green flags are waved after that new line, BUT, in the same time because it was the final lap, rule 40.13 came into action.. That's their case, i can see the reasoning behind that version too and behind this one that you're talking about.. I'm just curious as to what's the truth here..
Mercedes agreed that ultimately, it was the proper decision by the stewards:
Fact was Green flag was waved, But according to the stupid rules the least punishment he could of got was a 20 second penalty, where as he should of just been kept back to 7th at worse, the loser here was shumacher big time he shouldn't be penalized for the race organizers screwing up.
Nope, it's all they can achieve... The penalty can't be appealed anyway, so forcing the FIA to act is everything they wanted... I don't believe the "in the interest for the sport" for one second - it didn't held anyone back in the past...
No, they do not accept the decision was 'proper'. They accepted the process to which the decision was made, but not the actual decision itself. They withdrew the appeal because the penalty can't be over turned and it would do more harm than good if they were to continue.
it's much worse than America's style of "sprint to the line"...
what's the point of pulling the safety car in if one ain't allow to pass another if the safety car came in on the last lap, despite the first safety car line thingy~?
just so the cars would cross the line more quickly then they would have if they were following the safety car~?
yeah I probably shouldn't have squeeced that into one sentence~
So on a normal restart behind a safety car, drivers can pass others after they crosses the first safety car line. But why should that not be the case when the safety car is coming in on the final lap of a race~?
Unfortunately they can't withdraw that kind of decisions, there are numerous other cases in the past that are also fishy, so if you withdraw this one, then someone could say let's look at the previous cases too, and that could go on and on till the first years of F1..
