I've been doing some races on the Kyoto oval, and I've got a question about etiquitte.

I know that running around on the bottom of the track to block the inside line is generally a no-no. But what about coming off the final corner for the last sprint to the finish? If you're in front, is it considered okay to immediately cut down to the pit wall and stay down there through the last kink and to the finish? Or would that go in the category of all other blocking moves?

Thanks in advance for opinions, sorry if this has been asked before.

Well, it`s maybe not good to say this, since many rookies are looking at it and maybe missunderstand it - but, generally you can say that almost everything is allowed on the last straight/corner exit.
If I am in the lead I try to block, and almost making it impossible to get in front of me, but they still manage to do it, you only have to use their draft and confuce them a little

So yes, to answer your question, the last corner exit and final strech it`s normally mayhem, and the strongest man survives
But remember, you don`t have to crash the,, but you can block them very much more on the last spots mentioned above.

Hope it helps, and btw - look for the [FM] server. Good people there, and good admins that tries to keep it clean.
[xxx] server also works ok, since it`s normally up when some of it`s admins are around.

Good luck!

It depend's on which server you are on. Some oval sever's have some weird rules they expect everyone to follow.

yea, pretty much you can block(Marco Andretti should have at the end of the Indy 500)

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It depend's on which server you are on. Some oval sever's have some weird rules they expect everyone to follow

LOL sounds just like the UK political parties

John

Quote from th84 :

It depend's on which server you are on. Some oval sever's have some weird rules they expect everyone to follow.

Yeah, like mine. I expect other racers to find a draft buddy and learn proper racing.

I was refering more to the one's that REQUIRE you to pass on the left, or automatically give way to the car coming from behind, or SHIFT+S as soon as you touch the grass.

Quote from jayhawk :

I expect other racers to find a draft buddy and learn proper racing.

Those rules arent to hard to follow, although i dont think one can learn proper racing on the oval. Just my opinion.

Quote from Max2147 :

I've been doing some races on the Kyoto oval, and I've got a question about etiquitte.

I know that running around on the bottom of the track to block the inside line is generally a no-no. But what about coming off the final corner for the last sprint to the finish? If you're in front, is it considered okay to immediately cut down to the pit wall and stay down there through the last kink and to the finish? Or would that go in the category of all other blocking moves?

Thanks in advance for opinions, sorry if this has been asked before.

It's an interesting question, I'd have said generally there is no problem defending a line if you don't change from low position to high position and normal rules ( ie. competitor has to be next to B pillar etc etc )before he has the corner, but reading the thread it appears that the response is

"It's an oval, so we have to play it like Nascar and the "good ol boys" rules.

Which vary from US state to state and race to race it seems

If you're in front, block, swerve and do what it takes to stop drafting

That's the usual way anyone will pass on last corner, drive with your brake lights on hee hee unnerves a lot of ppl that does

Quote from ShannonN :

ie. competitor has to be next to B pillar etc etc )before he has the corner

The only racing series where I can find the B Pillar rule is in V8 Supercars. If you know of any other real race series that uses this rule please let me know.

Thanks for the replies. Seems like the consensus is that you can certainly go a bit farther than normal on the last lap to defend your position.

See you all online! (Waterboy)

Usual rules are:
a) No tank/plane/chopper whoring on uncapturable bases
b) Join squads
c) Do not punish on accidental TK

Glad someones picked up on this. I was in a server the other week, was it a clownpaint one? Not sure, anyway. There were loads of rules. No passing on that side, giveway to this and that. Sounded like a load of bollocks to me - wheres the racing? This was f***ing motorway rules on an oval. Shift+S on crash as well, what happened to the yellow flag and avoidance thing?

(im on a roll now) - and another thing - people shouting at others that dont obey Blue Flags, when clearly what they have done is ignore a yellow one and crashed into the folks having their own crash.

I think its high time people got back to real racing - no rules other than ones based on real life (scuse me if those stupid rules are in real life) - that means obey all flags, not just the blue ones. Racing is not about getting a hotlap time, its about getting to the end and possibly ending up first, with some close racing on the way.

Dammit thats better.

Quote from ButterTyres :

that means obey all flags, not just the blue ones. Racing is not about getting a hotlap time, its about getting to the end and possibly ending up first, with some close racing on the way.

So true! I never do ovals, but this applies to non-oval tracks as well. A couple of days ago I saw a guy spin on the exit of the last turn before the straight on BL1. The back half of his car was on the grass. Another cars was about 3 seconds behind him, he definitely saw the first guy spin, and ofcourse he got a yellow flag. The first guy did the right thing by staying where he was so the other guys could easily pass him by deviating only a little from the racing line. But yet he completely smashed into the guy not moving an inch of his line. Then he completely burned the guy claiming he should have shift-f'ed even though the crash was totally unnecessary and his own fault. In reallife racing he should have lifted and take precautionary actions when yellow flagged anyway. I hate the whole "shift-f!!!111" thing. The only place I use it is on SO.

I really really really hate these hotlappers on any track. Go offline!

sorry for OT

Anyone who goes flat out into a yellow flag situation, IMO, deserves to be crashed out, that's what it's there for

Blue flag gives a warning, it doesn't mean you have to slow down and let the other car past, it means take it careful and do not fight for position

The problem with oval servers is that it's usually the place where newbies end up when they first try S2, which led to the creation of the obscure rules and general tightarsedness that exist on oval servers now. Personally, I'd rather join a drift than a oval server because I really cannot stand the hostility found on the latter. But each to his own, as usual.

Quote from AndroidXP :

The problem with oval servers is that it's usually the place where newbies end up when they first try S2, which led to the creation of the obscure rules and general tightarsedness that exist on oval servers now. Personally, I'd rather join a drift than a oval server because I really cannot stand the hostility found on the latter. But each to his own, as usual.

I'll admit, when I was first introduced to LFS, oval racing is where I spent all my time. The reason...it's easy to get up to speed quickly.

I wouldn't of met the people I have within spdo (my old team) and I wouldn't of seen the light and started track racing without the oval servers up and running.

Quote from joen :

So true! I never do ovals, but this applies to non-oval tracks as well. A couple of days ago I saw a guy spin on the exit of the last turn before the straight on BL1. The back half of his car was on the grass. Another cars was about 3 seconds behind him, he definitely saw the first guy spin, and ofcourse he got a yellow flag. The first guy did the right thing by staying where he was so the other guys could easily pass him by deviating only a little from the racing line. But yet he completely smashed into the guy not moving an inch of his line. Then he completely burned the guy claiming he should have shift-f'ed even though the crash was totally unnecessary and his own fault. In reallife racing he should have lifted and take precautionary actions when yellow flagged anyway. I hate the whole "shift-f!!!111" thing. The only place I use it is on SO.

I really really really hate these hotlappers on any track. Go offline!

sorry for OT

shift f? dont you mean shift s? or does turning off the hud make you less likely to crash?

Quote from Chris_Kerry :

I'll admit, when I was first introduced to LFS, oval racing is where I spent all my time. The reason...it's easy to get up to speed quickly.

I wouldn't of met the people I have within spdo (my old team) and I wouldn't of seen the light and started track racing without the oval servers up and running.

same here, although i have driven about 10 laps of the BF1 on the oval, then got bored! (its all too easy!)

Quote from Jakg :

shift f? dont you mean shift s? or does turning off the hud make you less likely to crash?

Ehhmm, well....i meant it like, ehhh... ...

It means I didn't have enough caffeine But yes, I meant to say shift-s

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Ehhmm, well....i meant it like, ehhh... ...

It means I didn't have enough caffeine But yes, I meant to say shift-s

good, because i thought i was missing out on something!