yes it will
hold people accountable for what theyre responsible for
yes it will
hold people accountable for what theyre responsible for
Sorry I mean a witch hunt is a little different to holding people accountable in that a witch hunt is driven by ignorance and hysteria while punishing those actually responsible requires reason and investigation. No doubt the powers that be will chose the former option regardless to keep the idiot masses happy, always a good idea to have a clear hate figure to direct attention away from their own failings.
Plenty of mindless hysteria in this thread, but this is the internet after all.
I'm not a technical expert on the subject, but in this modern world, with all the modern technology available... how long could it possibly take somebody to fix this problem (the gusher)? 
We'll see when the banhammers are comin down for me.
But I guess you should now better stu and stop being such a prick to me.
Shouldn't you be at school?
What will you do if I don't? :mischievo
We really don't need such bloody minded ranting, can you contribute anything reasonable?
Sadly as that rig was under American law it wasn't bound to the same rules and checks we have in the North Sea. After Piper Alpha the yanks said no to tightening up their regulations because it will "drive the price of fuel up". I'd quite like the UK Government and families of the dead to go back and make those US companies set up funds that come close to bankrupting a major company. Let's not forget Texaco got away with pumping oil into the Piper Alpha fire because only the CEO of Texaco could give the order to stop pumping... something that American oil companies still have going today... it cost 167 people their lives and America hasn't learnt a thing.
Rubbish anti-capatilist nonsense! You sound like an A-Level Socialogy student wh;s just finished listening to an RATM record for the first time.
BP have lost billions! Their reputuation has been destroyed! There is quite a large comercial need to follow best possible safety practise. Are you actually aware how much BPs share price has fallen?
Considering the scale that thes oil companies work on day to day the fact there aren't more disasters shows how HIGH the safety standards are. Also, when you consider all the work that goes into getting oil from under the ground and into your car the prices are amazingly cheap. It's the taxation that pays for all the governments social engineering that puts the price up!
It's typical blame culture in this country! Part of life, and learning, is that you learn from your mistakes. BP have made a monumental error but to blame 'profit driven capatilism' is nonsence and counter productive.
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While I'll agree about the blame culture and excess hysteria there really is no need to talk to people like that unless their opinions are genuinely stupid, not just different. But then that just isn't your style is it?
While I'll agree about the blame culture and excess hysteria there really is no need to talk to people like that unless their opinions are genuinely stupid, not just different. But then that just isn't your style is it?
Well I can't help getting irate when people's opinions echo the rubbish Hugo Chavez spouts while he runs Venezala into the ground with his socialist experiment.
Hah, just hah.
What man, alltho our usually disagree'ing on the forum, I must admin I agree with you on most points here.
Why needing to blame someone? Sure, they ****ed up, the seriously ****ED (big letters) up big time, but it won't change anything by screaming out and finding the "bad link".
Fix it, go throught what's done and what could been done, prevent it from happening again.
Why just focusing on the problems, when it's the sollutions and possibilities we should focus on?
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This is simply Hilarious
@Intrepid
Everybody disagreeing with you is stupid and sounds like an A-Level Socialogy student.
Well there definately are some people to blame in this case, but to take on BP as if the whole corp is entirely responsible is a daft thing to do.
There have been so few accidents of this type mainly because there are so few wells of this depth, from what I have picked up the mud they were shoving down the well to keep the oil and gas in leaked unexpectedly into cracks in the surrounding rock, just one of the many things that could go wrong. If anybody needs a talking to its whoever was responsible for maintaining the safety systems such as the so called 'blow out preventer'. They need to explain why the rig was not fitted with an automatic trigger for the relevant safety gear and perhaps more importantly somebody needs to explain why the regulations meant there was no need to. Its not just BP at fault here, I'm sure that if other oil or specialist drilling companies in the gulf were investigated they'd find more disasters waiting to happen.
See, when you think for a few minutes rather than just bluntly directing all your rage at BP, you see that its a lot more complicated.
There have been so few accidents of this type mainly because there are so few wells of this depth, from what I have picked up the mud they were shoving down the well to keep the oil and gas in leaked unexpectedly into cracks in the surrounding rock, just one of the many things that could go wrong. If anybody needs a talking to its whoever was responsible for maintaining the safety systems such as the so called 'blow out preventer'. They need to explain why the rig was not fitted with an automatic trigger for the relevant safety gear and perhaps more importantly somebody needs to explain why the regulations meant there was no need to. Its not just BP at fault here, I'm sure that if other oil or specialist drilling companies in the gulf were investigated they'd find more disasters waiting to happen.
See, when you think for a few minutes rather than just bluntly directing all your rage at BP, you see that its a lot more complicated.
BP was just the unlucky one.
Could have happened with any other company...
Could have happened with any other company...
of course it would have happened to any other company..
prejudices over prejudices
prejudices over prejudices
as usual you havent got the faintest idea what the hell youre talking about
The last time I looked their shares where at about half their value, it's short term though. If they weather the storm then in 5 years time nobody will care anymore and shares will have recovered. This won't be the first time BP has been through the American courts and it wont be the last.
Yes, because high safety standards are clearly in effect when the safety equipment designed to prevent this disaster was known to have malfunctioned but they drilled anyway. If they had stopped drilling then the event would not have ocurred.
I didn't blame capitalism at all, just because your brain operates on a level of socialism versus capitalism does not meen that's the thought process involved when i'm making a post, even when I skirt around issues adjacent to capitalism. It might suprise you to know that I like capitalism, I do dislike some of the effects of globalisation because i'm a cynic (a side effect of intelligence), but likewise I do appreciate the benefits such as high consumer technology. I'm not an idiot, but reading my post as an attack on capitalism, now that takes an idiot.
Ignoring how long it will take to fix the issue of more oil spilling out (I havnt kept up to date on that), the job of cleaning up will take a very long time. The nature of the Lousianna coastline with it's marshes and swamps and it's inlets (which massively increases the miles of coast length) meens that even if heavy machinery can be used in places, tha majority of it will need to be done with a shovel. Even once the oil is cleared up the long term effects will last decades and some species may never recover at all.
I can't help dying a little inside whenever someones opinions are so far right that they'd scare Mousollini.
For somehow i disagree, they have made some serious mark for now and if they even "weather it" there will be one splat of oil on their trademark for decades if even not more...history has made and won't be forgotten, unless someone makes a bigger "leak".
The majority of the public are fickle and shallow as a paddling pool, so I doubt it, I mean its already left the headlines even though its still going. I would bet quite a few of those who ranted have already forgotten.
Have a look at this list of wiki spills, I don't know how old you are - but see if you can remember the companies behind those that happened in your lifetime: Big Oil Spills
It would be pretty wierd to read the same headline every day
Well, new developments on a story mean new headlines I guess.
I suppose at the moment there aren't any new developments but that is no excuse for getting all angry and militant about an issue one day and then forgetting it within a week because the world cup/Eastenders/ your favourite reality TV show is on, which is the mindset of a lot of people.
I haven't gotten angry to anyone on this case (timo here shows that he'll never forget for example ), i just feel sad...
....erm, yes, it is rather hard to remember spills when i was 6 or 7 years old(1991,-92), most of them happened before my birth.
), i just feel sad.......erm, yes, it is rather hard to remember spills when i was 6 or 7 years old(1991,-92), most of them happened before my birth.
Fair enough, but apply the same logic to the big outrage stories of last year... During our lives we get outrages by news events quite often - it's part of modern journalism. Sure this spill is large enough that it will get remembered for a while - but it will become history, if BP can survive long enough and the issue doesnt kill them completely then in the long term - we'll be so busy being outraged by the next thing to come along that sooner or later we'll forget or deem it not important anymore.
Well I don't think that this catastrophe will be easily forgotten.
There are far to many people affected by it.
I wouldn't even be surprised if there will some of the oil on northern europes
atlantic shores.(via gulf stream)
As Nightfly said, if there is not a greater diseaster to happen, this one will remain very present.
If I consider the long term effects and costs, I am not sure if BP,
as it is now, will survive it.
There are far to many people affected by it.
I wouldn't even be surprised if there will some of the oil on northern europes
atlantic shores.(via gulf stream)
As Nightfly said, if there is not a greater diseaster to happen, this one will remain very present.
If I consider the long term effects and costs, I am not sure if BP,
as it is now, will survive it.
BP oil catastrophe - horrifying pictures
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