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Car colour values?
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Car colour values?
I cant really see a part of the forum that accomadates this type of question but anyway...

Is their a site that has the RBG / Hex values for car colours such as British Racing Green, Ferrari Red and such.

I've spent ages on google looking but nothing. I really want to get a few skins going prior to getting S2 so im all ready and not racing around in a defult coloured car.

David.
well.. no, because colors in RGB and hex.. dont exist in the real world, a color is only a reflection of certain values of light waves, so its never the same at any point in time, so really you will have to guess and check, because you cant make something on a computer look exactly the same color as you would see in through your own eyes; you can search google somehow, i dont know what you would search for, but surely there is something that gives you values

i saw something at international's website for busses the color of busses (we.. had a fight one day on a bus trying to figure out if its orange or yellow lol) and it had rgb values, but for other colors.. i dont know
#3 - richy
you could try using the droplet tool thingy whatever it is, the thing you use to grab colours, like get a ferrari logo and use it to grab the red... i guess it would be close...
#4 - Gunn
XCNuse is kind of on the money here. (I remember his Ferrari skin made from real photos which proved how difficult it can be to represent an accurate copy of real life colours. Despite having several quality photos to work with almost every shot came out a different hue yet they were all Ferrari Red - rosso scuderia). British Racing Green is hard to find on the web in a useable format due mainly to reflections on images and even due your monitor's colour profile, if you even use one.

Perhaps the best idea is to find a website that sells paint. Often they will have those colour swatches so you can choose the right hues for your interior/exterior decorating or car paint job. Such a swatch for British Racing Green might be a useful starting point for your eyedropper tool. Cars I have tried to skin in the past with BRG colour have not been satisfactory. I was working with photos of a Kougar, an MG and a Jag but without great results. I think in the end a few shades must be used on the same skin to represent the right hues.
Wikipedia is your friend. RGB 2, 28, 19
Funnily enough, I was searching for just this a couple of days ago for a skin for my good mate Spikee. Here's the article in question:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_racing_green


There is also a link to "formal" or traditional racing colours for various nations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L ... tional_auto_racing_colors

Who knew that Egypt's traditional colours were pale violet, with red-on-white numbers? (Apologies to our Egyptian racers who, to a man, knew this)

Now if only someone could help me with an RGB for Payne's Grey, then I'd be in business....

Hope this helps

Rakhsh
#7 - sgb27
#8 - Gunn
Heh. They list five different colours. :P
British Racing Green is not a defined colour. To begin with it was any green (Green was Englands colour), but as time wore on it was a Darkish Green, but there remains to this day no absolute 'British Racing Green'. Anything near to the previous ones is okay.

Hmmm, just checked the Wiki article, and it appears to have already stated that.
#10 - JJ72
the color of a paint can change and be reinvented according to the latest paint technology, although mostly the basic color stays the same, however I am pretty sure Ferrari has custom blended colours and different surface finishings that you can't obtain without their authorization, or without the help of an authorized supplier.
I have a 'book' of paint codes for most cars painted in the last 50 years (although the majority are from the last 25), and Ferrari has many different 'Ferrari Reds'. None are a secret, if they were people wouldn't be able to get resprays very easily. Even the most expensive Ferraris have publically available paint codes (and besides, your painter should be sufficiently skilled to match the paint without a code with his eyes closed!)
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#12 - Gunn
Quote from tristancliffe :
Hmmm, just checked the Wiki article, and it appears to have already stated that.

The WIKI article does not match some historic information I have in a book explaining why their colour is green. All the countries had a colour and as far as I recall that predated the 1950's. I will try to dig the info out and post it.
well, keep in mind what a wiki is, anyone can go in there and edit what it says, so im sure there are numerous things in there that arent exactly "accurate" so to speak

@gunn.. surprised you remembered that skin lol, i was looking at my upload picture for it the other day hah
I dont know about national colours if they are strictly set but companies' colours are mostly given as pantones, when used in logos or layouts for marketing purposes.
So probably, their PR's mangrs should share with that knowledge.
well.. the british stole the green from italy .. apparently lol, or so said hamster on top gear, i dont know what it is really, i guess everyone just likes a certain color and .. they use it and that becomes.. the color lol
Quote from AndRand :I dont know about national colours if they are strictly set but companies' colours are mostly given as pantones, when used in logos or layouts for marketing purposes.
So probably, their PR's should share that.

Exactly. We define our logo colors using the PMS (pantone) system. Photoshop also supports this color system.

However, just because you have the pantone color code does not mean that it will come out looking correct. In the real world, different paints on different materials will look very different. It is extremely difficult to get colors to match when you paint on metal and then have some sturated plastic parts all in one unit. Things just come out with slightly different shades of the same color.

In the virtual world, it is all up to your monitor calibration and your graphics card setup, and the program used to display the image. You will be able to get close, but not perfect. Close is good enough in most situations.
Quote from tristancliffe :(and besides, your painter should be sufficiently skilled to match the paint without a code with his eyes closed!)

I think with his eyes closed is asking a bit much... illepall
Beethoven was a deaf musician. And there have been blind artists. Why not a painter with his eyes closed

edit: it might not have been Beethoven, but my memory ability is inversely proportional to the ambient temperature.
Oh my, i was on that exact page on wikipedia and the RGB stuff never came up :S

I always thought that because paint is all one colour in the tin, if it was matchable on an image in any light / reflection on the car would closly represent its real life counterpart. Guess i was wrong.

In anycase, thanks for the input guys.

PS: my card is an 256 ati x800 GTO and i havent mucked about with any colour modes or anything.
Quote from tristancliffe :edit: it might not have been Beethoven, but my memory ability is inversely proportional to the ambient temperature.

Yeah it was Beethoven, he was quite an inspirational character if you ever read about his life.

The only completely blind painter i'm aware of is a Turkish chap named Esref Armagan, here's a link to some of his painting's if anyone's interested http://www.armagan.com/paintings.asp
It's really quite amazing when you realise this guy has been blind since birth, so, therefore, has no visual understanding or reference of what he is painting, e.g check out the Bill Clinton piece. And, he does this alone, he does'nt use anyone to describe what he's painting or where to put the line's or even which colours to use. Kinda prove's the word invalid is indeed in-valid
Quote from tristancliffe :Beethoven was a deaf musician. And there have been blind artists. Why not a painter with his eyes closed

edit: it might not have been Beethoven, but my memory ability is inversely proportional to the ambient temperature.

It was Beethoven. But he was not deaf for the whole of his life, and still, you can listen to music as Beethoven did (using a stick, resting on the piano and in clenched between his teeth), even when deaf, due to the vibrations.
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Quote from Hallen :Exactly. We define our logo colors using the PMS (pantone) system.

which one?
Quote from thisnameistaken :Uh-huh! Damn.

One thing I don't get: How does he select and mix colours? Lines and forms, fair enough, but he can't exactly get braille paint can he?

Hmm, thats a good question.

I've just had a look at his website, but it really doesn't go into too much detail. The only thing it mention's is "When he paints, he puts the colors, which are lined up in a particular order so that he can always find the right one desired"

So i guess he doesn't mix them, but, somehow gets a degree of colour subtly within his work, amazing when you think of it.

If you're interested here's his site, (no pun intended) http://www.esrefarmagan.com/index.html

p.s why the Uh-huh! Damn ?

pps Nice to see a bit of culture in LFS

[edit] To James's post below. There's a link on this guys website that goes into how he does it in depth, but, i'm not entirely sure if i understand it http://www.boston.com/news/glo ... /old_brain_new_tricks/?p1
It's all about how the brain process's information from other sense's and kinda paints a picture in his mind, i think ?
ah, hang on, the link dont work.....
erm, something odd going on here, now it does work ??
Quote from thisnameistaken :Uh-huh! Damn.

One thing I don't get: How does he select and mix colours? Lines and forms, fair enough, but he can't exactly get braille paint can he?

The one thing I don't get is how he knows what all those things look like if he's never seen them... I mean, how would you know not only the shape, but the principles of shadow and shading, etc.?
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