Quote from trebor901 :

with the bullshit that is going on with the shipping at the moment i will never be ordering from Apple store again not when it comes to something this expensive

How so? Because it takes time to make and ship a product that has a massive demand?

That's crazy talk. New products from Apple always have had a wait, until it settles down.

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

How so? Because it takes time to make and ship a product that has a massive demand?

That's crazy talk. New products from Apple always have had a wait, until it settles down.

no its the fact that the item has a tracker on it yet you phone apple and the handler in this case TNT and neither of them can tell actually where it is and the tracker doesnt get updated for nearly a week

Shipping trackers are bogus anyways. I have received packages before stuff has been in a tracker.

I can't believe you're as insane to try to peg it on Apple.

Quote from trebor901 :

no its the fact that the item has a tracker on it yet you phone apple and the handler in this case TNT and neither of them can tell actually where it is and the tracker doesnt get updated for nearly a week

I find some couriers tracker systems are terrible. I guess some depots can't be bothered scanning the item as it comes in, so many parcels I've had still think their in the USA, China etc when there in my hand

On your earlier note I think Apple always ship from China, when I bought my MacBook just over a year ago it came from China to.

No. My first MBP I ordered, came directly from California. However my 2010 one.. that one came from China directly.

Alright, fine... You can have a free case if you shut up....

Jobs is such a joker.

"Look. Every phone has this problem!!! We're not alone!! HTC, BlackBerry, Nokia, Samsung, all of them!"

*Takes his E72, death grips it, no bars dropping.*
*Takes his HTC Desire. Death grips it, no bars dropping*

Damn!

"People hate big phones. They wont buy them..."

Funny that. I wonder why EVO 4G, Incredible and the likes are sold out almost everywhere. Looks like another case for Mr.Sherlock.

Quote from DevilDare :

*Takes his E72, death grips it, no bars dropping.*
*Takes his HTC Desire. Death grips it, no bars dropping*

Damn!

And take your iPhone 4 (if you had one) and it would be the same. I know couple of people here in Serbia that have it and they say nothing happens. I guess it happens in the areas where signal is crap either way..

My house has the shittiest signal in the area. No joke. You cannot talk in certain places of the house... Yet my Nokia and HTC do not lose bars like Jobs demonstrated in his mystical presentation.

It makes me laugh....

Such a terrible way to go about saying, "Sorry, we ****ed up".

Next few days will be interesting. Either RIM, HTC, Samsung and the likes will just laugh it off, or declare war.

and the issue truly doesn't matter at all to anyone except the most anal, because millions will still flock and buy more iPhone 4's.. like me

Indeed.

Quote from DevilDare :

Next few days will be interesting. Either RIM, HTC, Samsung and the likes will just laugh it off, or declare war.

They wont do anything.

People will buy iphones no matter what. All phones have problems, the iphones problem is such a big deal because of the publicity it gets.

Apple could say, yeah **** you it doesn't work, what you going to do, and the answer would be....ok, I'll have another one please.

Really?

Because Nokia have already submitted a statement.

Like the man in orthopedic shoes said, I stand correct.

wow they actually did admit that the design is bad
i half expected him to come up on stage wearing an iraqi information ministry uniform and flat out deny that theres any problem

got mine today its absolutely fine with regards to the dropping signal or calls when held in left hand which is a bit of luck as im left handed

Quote from DevilDare :

Alright, fine... You can have a free case if you shut up....

Quote :

Steve Jobs, after repeatedly saying that Apple wasn’t perfect, promised free cases (until Sept. 30) and refunds (within 30 days of purchase) for iPhone 4 customers unhappy about the “death grip” that blocks the smartphone’s antenna. “We’ll send you a free case,” said Jobs at an unprecedented news conference Friday to answer rising complaints about Apple Inc.’s latest product. “And if you’re still not happy, you can bring your iPhone 4 back undamaged for a full refund.”
In his trademark black sweater, a defensive Jobs said, “When we have problems like this and people criticize us, we take it really personally. But the data supports the fact that the iPhone 4 is the best smartphone in the world.”

:ices_rofl

http://www.thestar.com/article ... iphone-refunds-free-cases

I'll still be buying one, because honestly... I'd not want to use one without a case, in case I drop it. Don't want it to get broken.

dont lie youd buy anything from apple
even if it were covered in dog shit

Not only him.

A lot of people would.

Quote from Shotglass :

dont lie youd buy anything from apple
even if it were covered in dog shit

I still refuse to buy a Macbook Air and an iPad.

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

I still can't afford a Macbook Air and an iPad.

fixed

No. Money isn't an issue whatsoever. A Macbook Air is pointless as I already have 2 Macbook Pro's, both of which are about as small as I'd want a laptop to be anyways. iPad is useless as I already have a data-capable iPhone OS device... I don't need another one that's bigger.

Macbook looks awesome, that's also one of the reasons why I would buy it.

I think my iPhone must have a fault - apparently (according to people on the internet who have no qualifications on the matter) it has a design fault that causes the aerial to drop 'bars' if you hold it the wrong way.

Mine doesn't. I think mine (and all the ones in the shop, as well as 7 of my friends who now have iPhone 4s) must have been made wrong, thus bypassing the design fault (that, if it was a design fault, should affect every iPhone 4)...

But as it doesn't, I still can't believe it's a design fault.

My 3G would get better reception if I didn't hold it (but signal is weak in my house anyway, so I'm liable to see that on any phone ever).

iPhone 4 connection problems

http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/24/iphone-4-antenna-issue/

i read in the german newspaper 'Bild' that Jobbs said iPhone user may get a case to put in the iPhone for free to avoid the connection probs.