Exactly what he said. By giving infractions to people saying that something exists is illogical, as the rules merely say posting links to them is not allowed. The moderators are "employed" to avoid people breaking the rules. Their tasks DO NOT include making up new rules.
I have been pissed off by illogical moderator action once before in the last month. Who exactly is discussing this 'illegal' software going to hurt? It's not like people who want to find out won't otherwise. LFS is not going to lose sales because of people cracking some other game. The developers won't be harassed by the police.
All this is censorship at its best. Something which is not ok with their view of the world -> Delete/Close and give the culprit an infraction, or even better, downright ban him.
Maybe every thread speaking about drugs should be closed too? The thread about mexican mafia. We don't want people to know that such things exist now do we? If they find out we'll soon have mafias here too! Welcome to the USSR.
TBH I think it'd be very hypocrite to carry on that witch hunt with S2 crackers if anyone else would be allowed to praise himself for using cracked content in the off topic section.
So yea. In theory discussing about cracked content isn't directly disallowed by the rules, but cmon, stop using that juristic POV. The ruleset isn't the holy book you'd have to refeer to before handling any possible sanction, it's just a sheet covering the most common infractions.
After all...
I'd put that case on that point.
Sure this is gonna cause a lot of problem with unconsistance in decisions, with some mods being harshers on some offenses than others... But cmon, the mods are only a few, and they have a life, I feel it's a bit strange to except them to do act like professional people. They are doing their best, that's way enough for me IMO Although I wouldn't mind if the devs would hire some more TBH.
I totally agree with this, but sadly it seems like some people are just not mature enough to moderate the forum like this.
I guess the mods would have to PM the offenders and explain them why what they've done is bad etc etc etc... But it takes time, and in the end a good part of the offenders would just want argue with the mods instead of shutting their mouth and assuming their acts. Hence why the mods prefer to close threads brutally.
Anyway, to quote 5haz, someone who really has the skills to sum up pages of arguments into 1 catching sentence:
that the whole bose thing for example. he was given an infraction for discussing illegal activities. he then agrued about his infraction on two threads.
imo, he still thinks he has done noting wrong. so there's no way to make him understand why he got his infraction. the mods have done their job (fairly) but bose is so angry at getting an infraction that even the simple explination from many forum users has only angered him more.
it's hard to see the truth when your angry at the system. if you look at the 1st mafia 2 thread. the mods cleaned it up and removed all posts that had anything to do with cracking the demo. this should have been a clear messege that this kind of talk is not allowed. bose then discussed the illegal leaking of the full game. only an idiot would do such a thing after the thread was cleaned up. so imo, he left the mods no other option but to give him and the other guy an infraction. and nearly a day later, we're still discussing the issue. imo, he's lucky he didn't get a ban. simply because his attitude following the infraction could be compared to a kid who didn't get his happy meal.
Lmao, no need to be an idiot. I'm not mad at all, do you really think I care about an infraction? It just is not right, I didn't post illegal stuff, nor post a link of it, so I still don't see how I break that rule...
you'll find the only idiot here is you. and if you didn't care about the infraction, why do you call everyone who tries to explain why you got it an idiot? why have you questioned the integrity of the moderators on this forum?
you still believe you did nothing wrong. it is forbidden to discuss any illegal activity on this forum. you said that the game was leaked. a leaked game is an illegal version of a game. same as a leaked screener. it's illegal no matter what you say. no further questions your honour.
maybe this will be the end of those kind of threads. i hope something good comes from this thread. i hope it redefines the line of what is and isn't allowed to be discussed on the forum.