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Yup, Kia isn't the most reliable manufacture, but it's a decent car. I'd MUCH rather a somewhat newer Kia than this Micra, although 3000 kr is extremely cheap, it might just be what it's worth.
Quote from P5YcHoM4N :I had that choice, a free Kia offered to me by my sister, all I had to do was insure it. I chose to buy a new pair of boots instead.

all that means is that you made the wrong choice. you could have sold the kia.
Quote from dadge :all that means is that you made the wrong choice. you could have sold the kia.

It was worth about the same as my boots, so you could say I could have got a free pair of boots out of that trade, but it was shit I didn't want blocking up my drive way until it sold. She only offered it to me for the same reason.
i would have sold it and bought 2 pairs of boots.
Quote from Ni-san :The seller consider selling it for 10 000NOK (about 1100 euro) but he offers it to me for 3000NOK (about 370 euro). As my first car I'm just looking for something cheap that goes forward. Unlike a Ferrari, if I crash and ruin the car it isn't such a big deal. I drive almost as bad in a real car as in LFS. (in a real car I haven't drove off the road or crashed yet)


Anyways, this is my dream car. However it's pretty rare.

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1100 for that thing? Did you see that rust? They offer me 1175 euros for my car and that one has no rust at all (1.6L Mazda Xedos6) and drives good and all. Still, if anyone wants to trade it for a BMW.....

I won't even pay 300 for that thing, sorry.

About the 86: Too much Initial D :P Still, a pretty decent drifting car for its age.
That AE86 can barely move itself. The biggest 1.6L 4A-GE had 112 bhp when it was brand new. It's become a cult car, but not for being particularly good...
Most cult cars are the same. The old VW ShagWagon is a cult car, but is hardly any good.
Quote from RasmusL :That AE86 can barely move itself. The biggest 1.6L 4A-GE had 112 bhp when it was brand new. It's become a cult car, but not for being particularly good...

would you ever f*** off.

it was not fast, but still by standards here it was nippy enough and no. the AE86 did not only have 112 hp, thats the AE85.

86 had 127 bhp standard here ( on our fuel anyways ) with the only major difference between the two being interiors, lsd and most 85's came with a shitty 1.5 where as the 86 had a 1.6

most 85's where converted to 86's when imported because... well its hard enough to tell the difference,

but getting back to the point on top; you must remember that places such as rieland where poor during the 80's and well this was a fast car if you could afford it, not only that but they where still rare enough bar rallying due to the fact we generally got the FWD + carinas.

Though still they gave seirras, escorts and most everything you can name a good run for their money for the price of them. They are relyable and predictable cars, whats not to love ?

the 1.6 4age sounds lovely on ITB's/cammed so you really cant complain ( unless your my old instructor who haven been a major toyota fan all his life used to go bat shit at me for liking old corrollas over his lovely Mk1 celica + MK 3 supra )

Its understandable why people like them but then again they are poxy boxy c**** that get treated poorly, tuned badly and still get a great rep that will outlive them.

Still i'd own one not a bother if i could get one at none cult prices... but they are loved here, much like e30 bmw's and mk2 golks, eg civics etc etc
Quote from RasmusL :That AE86 can barely move itself. The biggest 1.6L 4A-GE had 112 bhp when it was brand new. It's become a cult car, but not for being particularly good...

130hp and 970kg? What did you smoke?
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Still i'd own one not a bother if i could get one at none cult prices... but they are loved here, much like e30 bmw's and mk2 golks, eg civics etc etc

I'll 2nd that. there's some really tidy examples of this car in Ireland. same with the escort cossie, the 22b and the mk2 escorts. anything with a bit of rally history really. if it goes sideways, you can bet the Irish will like it.
omg. What made toyota decide to turn the Corolla into a POS.

Actually. What made toyota make the Corolla sporty for two years and then make it back into a POS?
Quote from Luke.S :omg. What made toyota decide to turn the Corolla into a POS.

Actually. What made toyota make the Corolla sporty for two years and then make it back into a POS?

Ah, well you see... Kia doesn't even have a sports car. That's why everybody rices them up, cheap and all..
Quote from dadge :I'll 2nd that. there's some really tidy examples of this car in Ireland. same with the escort cossie, the 22b and the mk2 escorts. anything with a bit of rally history really. if it goes sideways, you can bet the Irish will like it.

I have never seen such cars in Dublin in the past 2 years..
Quote from Luke.S :omg. What made toyota decide to turn the Corolla into a POS.

Actually. What made toyota make the Corolla sporty for two years and then make it back into a POS?

Profit. They are a business. Just like every other business out there, there only real aim is to make monies.

Take a look at Ford for example. The Cosworth YB was a fantastic engine, which helped Ford beat manufacturers like BMW, VW and Audi in many motor sport Championships around the world. It was reliable, cheap to mass produce (Eventually, when introduced into the 3dr Cosworth) and was very tunable. This Engine was eventually killed off due to new rules and regulations regarding emissions and other factors.

In the past 10 years, the same thing has happened to the Duratec I-5 (Albeit a Volvo 5-pot) and the Duratec 25/30 (2.5 and 3.0 V6). They were both fantastic engines offering great performance and MPG, yet the EU still thought they were too polluting and killed them off too.

Unfortunately, the EU rules and regulations are getting stricter and stricter, which is why cars are slowly but surely, getting boring. The new Focus RS for example. Ford could of easily fitted Volvos Haldex AWD system into the car. It fitted the dimensions of the Focus perfectly and the AWD system itself is actually a very rewarding drivetrain. Engineers said they did not fit this system due to it making the car feel poor to drive and un-entertaining, where as the test drivers said otherwise. Ford actually decided not to add the Haldex system due to EU rules and regulations, which would could of potentially seen the car fail to exist.

So Luke, your answer is profit.....and the stupid ****ing EU.

P.S, and just to add, the new Focus RS has to be fitted with a 2.0 I-4 Turbo from now on, coupled to an Electric Motor. That's another knife in the Focus RS' back.
Quote from Hahmo :I have never seen such cars in Dublin in the past 2 years..

you're looking in the wrong places
Quote from Takumi_lfs :Ah, well you see... Kia doesn't even have a sports car. That's why everybody rices them up, cheap and all..

well actually...

























Quote from Luke.S :well actually...

A 2.4L Engine, and it only puts out 170hp, not to mention the fact it doesn't even do 0-60mph in under 7 Seconds. Oh yeah....That's a REAL performance car there.
it doesn't have to be a good sports car to be a sports car.

Quote from Nathan_French_14 :A 2.4L Engine, and it only puts out 170hp, not to mention the fact it doesn't even do 0-60mph in under 7 Seconds. Oh yeah....That's a REAL performance car there.

My Jetta outperforms that, and it's a 1.8L turbo at 150hp.
You sure you don't mean 1.8? As far as I'm aware, they didn't make a 1.6 Turbo, or at least, they didn't in the UK.
Yes, I'm just retarded
Quote from dawesdust_12 :my jetta outperforms that, and it's a 1.8l turbo at 150hp.

Quote from the interwebs :vw jetta 1.8t (150hp). 0-60mph: 8.2 seconds.

:d
Haha.

In all fairness to Dawes, 0-60 times posted by Manufacturers and/or Journalists usually mean nothing in the real world.

I've driven a few Golfs/Boras (Essentially a Jetta) with the 150hp 1.8T though, and they are pretty dreadful. They do respond well to a remap though, although I think you cannot go as far with them compared to the 180hp version as that one uses a larger turbo/larger fuel injectors afaik?

*waits for Blueflame to come along*
It's not a bad car to drive actually considering its a Jetta. It's FWD for sure, but as I learnt, it's not useless in the snow, it's not bad on ice, and is decently fun.
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