Anyone know how to do a proper start in the XRR? As soon as the starting lights go green the engine bogs and I get a slow start while the FZR's blow by. I've got the engine rev'd prior to green, but once the light changes... :banghead:

Try increasing the ratio for first gear. It helps some. However, the XRR will just not launch as fast as the FZR no matter what you do.

I've never had a problem with the XRR, floored it and it just goes.

FV8 is a bitch though.

You don't have manual clutch on (in?) the real world BF1 anyway... And it wouldn't be too hard to imagine the fv8 with paddles...

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I've never had a problem with the XRR, floored it and it just goes.

How do you have your ratios set?

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FV8 is a bitch though.

Yup, but for different reasons and in a different way. I really like the FO8 because it teaches good throttle control. I suck in it in general though.

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Not when you've got a clutch pedal

Well... You get a good start, but lose lots of time around the rest of the circuit as all the auto-clutchers fly through the gears. TBH with the FO8 and BF1 I usually switch auto-clutch on myself or downshifting becomes quite farcical.

for the FO8, i'll just use heel-toeing for downshifting, so that isn't a problem for me
in the BF1 you don't need to turn on autoclutch, because it has a real sequential gearbox where you don't need to clutch yourself - so there i leave it on too

FV8 is easy imo

as for the XRR, how long are you revving it for, because if your only revving it a right before it goes green then your turbo is just spooling up rather than already at its peak

its the same with the FXR too, if you dont have it revving for that whole time the start lights light up, your just going to bog down because the turbo engines need that boost to get it going

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FV8 is easy imo

as for the XRR, how long are you revving it for, because if your only revving it a right before it goes green then your turbo is just spooling up rather than already at its peak

its the same with the FXR too, if you dont have it revving for that whole time the start lights light up, your just going to bog down because the turbo engines need that boost to get it going

So, what would you recommend? I usually rev from the time the reds start cycling thru.

Thats definately enough.

In general, I floor it just after the second set of reds come on.

Yeah, unfortunately - and that is the rule for ALL cars with a turbo in LFS - the best launch is when you start revving as soon as you are on the grid, to build up turbo pressure. You don't even need to lift for wheelspin (as long as it doesn't make *you* spin) because the difference in grip is marginal.

Gad, I am looking forward to the day when starts in LFS consist of more than just flooring it in the knowledge that the clutch will be dropped automatically when the lights turn green. Imagine how much better the starts will be if you have to react to the lights and use proper clutch and throttle control to get off the line. Jump start penalties, stalled cars, cars bogging down, it will really mix things up.

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I use a button clutch to be sure. Sometimes the engine would still bog if I got my timing wrong.

Still get swamped by most of the field but hey thats the price you pay for driving the emo-car.

Add .300 to first to make starting better.

XRR engine has a turbo - a BIG one. This turbo MUST be spun up just when the green lights comes on..... Watch the turbo press gauge anbd be sure you have ther max possible pressure. Just floot the throttle 2 - 3 seconds before start. You engine shouldnt be harmed a lot and you will jump from the grid as a rocket....

Im XRR addictive so I know how to leave the starting grid with this beast

ah.. but did you read the other posts before that lol?

i think FXR has a longer spool time; does it? (obviously im asking because i cant check right now)

i like the XRR, the FZR is ok but i cant stand RR's and i dont like AWD to much so the FXR is out. the XRR just works for me, im an FR guy and allways will be


but like they say, just hold it to the floor as soon as you hit the grid. it doesnt seem like you can F up the motor in this game so your not going to over-rev. you can F up your motor but it takes going down the BL straight at 160, slaming it to first gear and holding down the gas untill you stop LOL if you ask me the motors in this game need work >_<

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How do you have your ratios set?

RACE_S set matey

I think I figured it out based upon everyone's posts (what you guys have been describing isn't anything like what I've been experiencing). I use auto-clutch (only have two pedals, Logitech Momo). Would that be the problem? If so, how do I manually clutch with only on/off buttons available? Without clutch slip, is there any way to get a good launch. I've defintely got the revs/boost up before the green light shows itself.

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Im XRR addictive so I know how to leave the starting grid with this beast

It is a fun car, isn't it. Lots of "character".

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Gad, I am looking forward to the day when starts in LFS consist of more than just flooring it in the knowledge that the clutch will be dropped automatically when the lights turn green. Imagine how much better the starts will be if you have to react to the lights and use proper clutch and throttle control to get off the line. Jump start penalties, stalled cars, cars bogging down, it will really mix things up.

Whilst I totally agree with your wishlist I dont think the current LFS starts are that bad, in the Fox in a public race i'll usually pick up 4-6 cars on the run to the first corner ... I dont floor it. In TBO's i'm still experimenting with starts but i'm not convinced that just flooring it gets you to T1 quickest. Certainly my Fox method doesnt work with them at all.

Yes, N/A cars require careful throttle appliance so you get every advantage there is, however small and hard to get it is. With TBO cars, turbo pressure is far more important as the difference is not in the hundredths but in the whole second range. Without a clutch, you have to decide between optimum wheel slip and turbo pressure and the choice is obvious IMO. With a clutch you can have both, though.

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Rubens used to race with three pedals at Ferrari IIRC, he only switched to left-foot braking in his last couple of seasons with them.

The latter part is true but the former is not. There have not been clutch pedals in a Ferrari since they introduced the semi-automatic with the pedals in 1989.

hold the throttle flat just before the green light appears. The xrr took a bit of skill to launch well until patch u, now I thought it was very easy.

True, XRR was a nightmare to drive for me. But after patch came out, it handles really better.FZR has crazy acceleration, the best acceleration in LFS.

jean alesi used clutch pedals in his prost in 1999