I get ~10.

in... what track, what car, what view, and are any AI's or anything in sight?

gotta know this stuff or we cant help at all

its obviously a limit to the onboard card, this was the same problem i had with the HP i got for like.. 1 hour lol (took it back because of this reason.. actually because it didnt have an AGP slot) is because no matter how low i set the settings, it just.. couldn't take LFS for anything, it just plain wouldn't go over 20 fps

Here you have 4 screenshots of some settings which i think will improve your times.

There are some things i need to mention:

1. "Full Screen Vertical Sync" if OFF, it WILL give you more fps, BUT if you notice artifacts, switch it back on.
   
2. Haze Effect: my card is faster when ON. You check it this way: start a game, go to some area where you can see lots of stuff in front of you, pause the game, go where the option is and when you switch it on and off, see which gives you more fps. Also, this is the way you check nearly every option.
   
3. Mirror Mode: you might want to put it to "virtual" i have reasons to believe it is faster than "real", and you will want that if you use the "head between the tyres" viewpoint.
   
4. simple Rubber: if you WANT to see the skid marks, put this on mirror.
   
5. Zbufer: lowest you can go.
   
6. You might want to try 640x480 16bit, and turn "dithering", in the other options, to ON and see if that is faster for you. "On board" video cards, like yours, are generaly about twice as fast in 16bit than in 24 or 32 bits.

questions welcome.

Also, i can guess that your computer doesn't have a dedicated graphics card, but a graphics card that is part of your motherboard. That means it is rather slow. But it IS fast enough to play lfs, if you set it properly.

Try to find the settings for "anti aliasing" and "anisotropic filtering" turn these all OFF.

Most probably these are found by (i'm playing it safe and giving you the steps REALLY easy)

• right click on empty area on the desktop
  
• properties
  
• go to tab called "settings"
  
• if available, click "advanced", else press cancel and go play lfs.
  
• search in the new window for any tab that contains these settings.
  
• change them accordingly, and click ok in every window that has appeared. Except of course if there is some warning that i could not foresee
  

seeing its an onboard video card, i doubt it has any options (especially AA and AF)

I don't think it's a seperate graphics card. I think it's made by Iqon which are the people who also make the computer so it will be an onboard one.

These days you sadly can't expect to play 'modern games' on slowish computers, especially if they have no dedicated 3D accelerator card.

I would say you're likely do be a danger online with only 15fps as:
- you can't have good control at that framerate
- you will 'warp' more to the other players at low framerates..

I decided to try in just wheel mode today. I got 20+FPS. The most i've eer had. At times I got ~28FPS.
I have a problem though. When you change the camera angle you do it on wheel mode, so how do you get it back.

options - view, and all those settings that say X, Y, Z, rotation

What do you have to put it back manually.

AW that's too much effort lol.

just right click them and type in 0..

Ah that's easy enough lol

Sorry to annoy you further, but, did you try any of my suggestions?

I had a problem with a command I didn't, and still don't, understand. It's in the Graphics menu under my particular video card.

Simple Track (No car shadow) |Off|Scenery|All|

I'm assuming that at one point I read that and thought, "Great, *simple* and *no car shadow* and *all* equals better performance.

Then I forgot I clicked it and spent a week frustrated with frame rates of 10. When I finally clicked it back to "OFF" my rates went back up to the normal 50 to 80 range.

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Sorry to annoy you further, but, did you try any of my suggestions?

As a matter of fact my settings had all of them that way originally anyway so, yes.
And why would that annoy me further.

Also if you have windows XP, try starting it, then going CTRL+ALT+DEL and go Process's, then find LFS.exe, and right click and set priority to above normal or High, not REAL TIME because XP will crash due to essential services not able to be run.