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Graphics card help
I just bought a N9600GT, it plugs into my PC fine, the fan starts running but I am getting no signal on the monitor, I tried it with my 19" LCD and 50" plasma.

If I unplug the monitor from the graphics card and plug it back in the monitor restarts and says no signal again.
Did you previously have an inbuilt graphics card? (for example an Intel GMA series?)

If so, go into BIOS and set video to run from the PCIe slot (or AGP, who knows) as opposed to the inbuilt graphics driver.

If you can afford a 50 inch plasma surely you could afford something better than a 9600GT
Quote from S14 DRIFT :Did you previously have an inbuilt graphics card? (for example an Intel GMA series?)

If so, go into BIOS and set video to run from the PCIe slot (or AGP, who knows) as opposed to the inbuilt graphics driver.

If you can afford a 50 inch plasma surely you could afford something better than a 9600GT

Graphics card is not inbuilt, I just wanted something to run LFS a bit better, my current graphics card is a Radeon X300SE so this one is a bit upgrade
If you plug your X300 back in does it work again? Have you tried the 9600GT in another machine?

What sort of PSU are you running? You need to have 18A on the 12v rails so my next bet is that your PSU isn't capable of running the card. It may very well have enough to run the fans but not enough to actually function (if I only have one of my two PCI-6 power cables in, the fans on my graphics card goes completely crazy but doesn't work until I have both plugged in)

I think I'm also right in saying that the 9600GT requires a PCI-6 power adapater as well, if your PC is completely standard (IE bought with relatively low spec from a shop, which as it had a X300 in it, I imagine it would have), you probably have a generic 250w PSU which would have neither the PCI-6 power adapter nor the headroom to power the card, even if it did.

Check on the PSU in your machine (there would probably be a sticker which shows the amperage and watts etc). As a basic rule, 350w minimum would be required for this card and it must be able to supply 18a on the 12v rail (any fairly recent and well branded PSU would be able to do this for a small price)
Quote from S14 DRIFT :If you plug your X300 back in does it work again? Have you tried the 9600GT in another machine?

What sort of PSU are you running? You need to have 18A on the 12v rails so my next bet is that your PSU isn't capable of running the card. It may very well have enough to run the fans but not enough to actually function (if I only have one of my two PCI-6 power cables in, the fans on my graphics card goes completely crazy but doesn't work until I have both plugged in)

I think I'm also right in saying that the 9600GT requires a PCI-6 power adapater as well, if your PC is completely standard (IE bought with relatively low spec from a shop, which as it had a X300 in it, I imagine it would have), you probably have a generic 250w PSU which would have neither the PCI-6 power adapter nor the headroom to power the card, even if it did.

Check on the PSU in your machine (there would probably be a sticker which shows the amperage and watts etc). As a basic rule, 350w minimum would be required for this card and it must be able to supply 18a on the 12v rail (any fairly recent and well branded PSU would be able to do this for a small price)

If I plug the X300 back in yes it works,
I am currently running the VGA into the motherboard

Windows recognized the new hardware and attempted to install it

PSU is 210w

Does this mean I need a new power supply?
Quote from FPVaaron :If I plug the X300 back in yes it works,
I am currently running the VGA into the motherboard

Windows recognized the new hardware and attempted to install it

PSU is 210w

Does this mean I need a new power supply?

Woah! I did not even know they made 210Watt PSU.

So, yeah, 200 Watts is the least amount of power you need to be able to run a computer, and that's with out a CD ROM drive, and just a single hard drive.

Use this to find out how much power you need. If you don't know what your running then you should use CPUID to find out what parts are connected to your computer.
Tomorrow I will pick up something around 400watt

This was a cheap PC, the good thing was the processor (3.4 duel core)
Quote from FPVaaron :I am currently running the VGA into the motherboard

Surely this is the problem? You should plug the VGA cable into the back of the card.
Quote from Crashgate3 :Surely this is the problem? You should plug the VGA cable into the back of the card.

If he's running a 210w PSU (or attempting to) with a 9600GT then of course he would not know the difference between the VGA slot on the card and the one on a motherboard (if applicable).

As I said the PSU is completely useless so if you install a more powerful PSU (I would recommend OCZ or Corsair personally) with at least 400w you should be fine. Alternatively in your position I would upgrade to a 750w+ PSU from a good brand which should allow overhead for future expansion.

Regards,
Jay
No 400W, Go for 500W minimun, i recomend 600+w if you can
Quote from Crashgate3 :Surely this is the problem? You should plug the VGA cable into the back of the card.

Ignored.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

As I said the PSU is completely useless so if you install a more powerful PSU (I would recommend OCZ or Corsair personally) with at least 400w you should be fine. Alternatively in your position I would upgrade to a 750w+ PSU from a good brand which should allow overhead for future expansion.

Regards,
Jay

I'll go price up a few tomorrow, this isn't really a high end gaming computer but I would like something to play games with some decent graphics.

If you think 400 is enough i'll go with that, I'm only running one internal hard drive and two externals for media.
From what I can see in the internals it is only the DVD drive, hard drive and graphics card that requires a power input.
Quote from Inouva :No 400W, Go for 500W minimun, i recomend 600+w if you can

After a look on ebay they're much cheaper than I first imagined, I think I will go for something over 600w
Quote from FPVaaron :Ignored.



I'll go price up a few tomorrow, this isn't really a high end gaming computer but I would like something to play games with some decent graphics.

If you think 400 is enough i'll go with that, I'm only running one internal hard drive and two externals for media.
From what I can see in the internals it is only the DVD drive, hard drive and graphics card that requires a power input.

Also the CPU need power, go for 500w for safety,

Is other devices conected via cable to the cpu? cameras, cellphones, mp4/5, etc etc etc
Quote from Inouva :Also the CPU need power, go for 500w for safety,

Is other devices conected via cable to the cpu? cameras, cellphones, mp4/5, etc etc etc

On his current rig, if it's running on a 210w with the X300 then for his needs (with the 9600GT) a 400w would likely run the graphics card without a problem.

If he would like the scalability in the future then yes, the more watts the better (but remember that watts output is not the be-all-and-end-all....the amps availible on the rails matters as well!

The external harddrives are likely self powered so are not powered by the USB slots. A good brand 400w PSU will run the 9600GT but as mentioned it's recommended if you can afford to, to get a better one.

To be honest, my 600W OCZ PSU broke and I replaced it with a friends 450w Corsair one, which runs my Q6600, two CD drives, also powers all of my USB devices (webcam, iPod, keyboard and mouse) and powers an ATi 2900HD which is widely regarded as one of the most power hungry (and crap) graphics cards you can buy. It uses two 6 pin PCI power adapters FFS!



Good luck.
Quote from FPVaaron :Only by USB, there is about 6 devices.


http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=4896

Will get this tomorrow

That should do it, but if you can try to buy some , Powercooler / Antec / Corsair / Thermaltake Toughpower / Cooltek, that's brand are good and have good prices

@s14

A Corsair PSU is awesome psu, if the psu say 450W you got 450w, there are toons of psu that say 500w and barely trow 350w...
Quote from S14 DRIFT :Alternatively in your position I would upgrade to a 750w+ PSU from a good brand which should allow overhead for future expansion.

Regards,
Jay

A 750 watt PSU is massively overkill for what he's trying to achieve. I run a Core i7, a GTX285 and 3 HDs and I've never seen power consumption go above about 400W (my fan controller has a power readout).
All working.

I picked up a 600w Thermaltake
Quote from Crashgate3 :A 750 watt PSU is massively overkill for what he's trying to achieve. I run a Core i7, a GTX285 and 3 HDs and I've never seen power consumption go above about 400W (my fan controller has a power readout).

Lucky I'm not sure what the i7 power consumption is but hey, plus with SLI (if he ever does go that route), the extra power would be handy.

Glad it's all working FPV. God I love working in IT.
Quote from Inouva :Is other devices conected via cable to the cpu? cameras, cellphones, mp4/5, etc etc etc

How could you connect a mp5 () via cable?
Quote from S14 DRIFT :I would recommend OCZ or Corsair personally

It's 2011, Thermaltake and FSP Group are kings of the hill.
Quote from E.Reiljans :How could you connect a mp5 () via cable?
It's 2011, Thermaltake and FSP Group are kings of the hill.

Shadoooowww,lmao

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