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Is the World Going Downhill?
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Is the World Going Downhill?
That would be strange if that was literal.

Anyway, global warming, loss of fish supplies, AIDS, deforestation, overpopulation - you hear about it all the time but nothing's really happening. Countries are talking about reducing CO2 rates by 5% by some year. That won't stop global warming. Overpopulation goes with loss of fish supplies. There is no real moral way to control it is there. You could go with the one child policy which has made a few spoilt generations or start a war which is a ridiculous way to make millions of people die until someone says, alright. Stop there. You've done enough. I could go on.

There are also more social aspects that are changing. For one, people are decreasing contact with other people. People are also starting to get larger waistlines. The next generations might be blobs.

Content creators are starting to catch on to hypes. In the film industry, a large number of films are being shown in digital. Why? If you do real 3D, you need 2 cameras which means twice the workflow and data (except for audio) which creates a lot of time and money spent that could have been used to create a better story. The music industry I think, was better in the 90s maybe even up to 2007. The songs now are just horrible autotuned crap with no suggestive lyrics, simple melodies and are just boring. Who wants to listen to the same 4 chords in every song? I just hope there is a replacement for Radiohead.

What do you guys think?
In response to the thread title: No.

And lol @ your point about music, tbh. If you only listen to chart music you are probably right. Search and you will find more than enough good bands.
The media focuses a lot on negative things, which is a problem I think.. Leads to thinking like this. IMO the only real problem you've stated is overpopulation, which is going to be bad..
Don't worry, we will all die in a nuclear war before all that
I stopped reading at global warming
Global warming doesn't even exist, yeah.. Pretty sure anthropogenic climate change is real though. The difference mostly exists in that we aren't sure that we're actually causing a warmer climate. It's just changing because of us.
Yo watch to much TV, forget the media and enjoy your life
Quote from Sir moi 407 :Don't worry, we will all die in a nuclear war before all that

Thats what you think. Little do we know, theres hidden bunkers called vaults all around the U.S reserved for rich people and valuable collectibles like the Mona Lisa and a 458 Italia.
Quote from Sueycide_FD :Thats what you think. Little do we know, theres hidden bunkers called vaults all around the U.S reserved for rich people and valuable collectibles like the Mona Lisa and a 458 Italia.

You should stop playing fallout
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RE: Global Warming: It's a mute point. Weather we are causing a climate shift or not, our footprint should be significantly reduced for general quality of life reasons. Not to mention fossil fuels will run out, and we don't have a viable replacement in time we're screwed. Solve that problem, and global warming will be more or less sorted.
Yes, duh
Quote from MAGGOT :RE: Global Warming: It's a mute point. Weather we are causing a climate shift or not, our footprint should be significantly reduced for general quality of life reasons. Not to mention fossil fuels will run out, and we don't have a viable replacement in time we're screwed. Solve that problem, and global warming will be more or less sorted.

Hydrogen fuel cells are a replacement. And they work. Battery powered vehicles are crap and even so charge from a wall socket which in turn is powered by hugely ineffecient powerstations.

Batteries are very bad for the enviroment, both in production and disposal, and yeah, it's just not a viable option. Hydrogen is much better but the governments are like "....hmm, easy and shit or expensive and good? We'll take the easy."

Hydrogen is, as I'm sure you're aware, the most abundant substance on earth. The only difficulty is splitting the hydrogen atoms for whatever they're stuck to.

But yeah, OP has a point, I agree music is shit now, especially the mainsteam stuff, but if you listen to the stuff that isn't commercialised bullshit, some of it's still better...but yeah, most of my music is between 1980s and around 2008...I mean Tinie Tempah is complete shit.

Ban mass media, the world will be a happier place.
Quote from S14 DRIFT :Hydrogen is, as I'm sure you're aware, the most abundant substance on earth. The only difficulty is splitting the hydrogen atoms for whatever they're stuck to.

You should stop watching Top Gear. It is very easy to spilt hydrogen from the item it is part of. However it currently requires more energy to harvest it than you'll gain from it.

Which is typical of humans really. We currently generate 1.5x as much carbon as can be absorbed by nature. Which is why we need to lower our carbon footprint, but unfortunately, for every ton of carbon a country will save an emerging economy will burn it up. The cuts the UK made in 2009, Canada increased their volume by the same amount, twice.
Ahh, I recall that from Top Gear, but my statement was from some stupid documentary (also on BBC2, mind!).

Plant more trees, job's a goodun.
Quote from P5YcHoM4N :, for every ton of carbon a country will save an emerging economy will burn it up.

God forbid an emerging economy trying to bring itself out of poverty.
Quote from S14 DRIFT :Ahh, I recall that from Top Gear, but my statement was from some stupid documentary (also on BBC2, mind!).

Plant more trees, job's a goodun.

The difficulty is finding a cost effective way to harvest it.

Quote from Intrepid :God forbid an emerging economy trying to bring itself out of poverty.

I am all for a country pulling itself out of poverty, but we could setup a handful of Nuclear power plants in a country to run it. Also creating many jobs. It is one of the cleanest forms of power around that actually generates power, unlike wind power and the like, which is shit. So they could set up factories and everything else they need, make money, get filthy rich and not fill the atmo with coal soot, like China is doing.

Hell, a new efficent coal power plant would make a huge difference if we actually sold the tech to China, but instead they have to make do with old inefficient ones. I will not go as far as to say green coal power plants like the industry call them, sure they put out less pollution, but I wouldn't consider that to be green.
Nuclear power is the future, only stupid politicians won't admit it
That is because whenever it is talked about hippies cry about Chernobyl or 3 Mile Island. Both of which would be avoided with a modern plant. Which means the old dangerous ones are left. Which would be like banning new safer cars being made because old ones killed some people.
Quote from S14 DRIFT :Hydrogen fuel cells are a replacement.

Agreed; however, the technology still has some way to advance. It's viable, technically, but not economically. Yet. Definitely the best solution for mobile applications, though.

As for non-mobile/building applications, there are a vast variety of fantastic options. Again, not all of them are cost-effective yet, but many are in the long term.

Quote from Intrepid :God forbid an emerging economy trying to bring itself out of poverty.

Quote from P5YcHoM4N :I am all for a country pulling itself out of poverty, but we could setup a handful of Nuclear power plants in a country to run it. Also creating many jobs. It is one of the cleanest forms of power around that actually generates power, unlike wind power and the like, which is shit. So they could set up factories and everything else they need, make money, get filthy rich and not fill the atmo with coal soot, like China is doing.

Hell, a new efficent coal power plant would make a huge difference if we actually sold the tech to China, but instead they have to make do with old inefficient ones. I will not go as far as to say green coal power plants like the industry call them, sure they put out less pollution, but I wouldn't consider that to be green.

Jordan brings up a point I've been banging on in my Environmental classes: The industrialization of a country has a huge impact on the environment, yes, but this can be minimalized. Some people are trying to get developed countries to give money to developing ones for greener development, others saying that developing countries should be mandated to do it themselves, blah blah blah. What needs to happen is for developed countries (or anyone with the resources) to further advance technologies to get them to a point that is not only economically viable for us, but for developing countries as well. Throwing money at developing countries won't solve the problem. What's that old saying, "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime" or some such?
Quote from P5YcHoM4N : However it currently requires more energy to harvest it than you'll gain from it.

Conservation of energy. Gaining more than you put in is impossible.
Quote from MadCat360 :Conservation of energy. Gaining more than you put in is impossible.

For sure, but in this case it is vastly more needs to go in then you'll get out the other side. Which is putting off a lot of investment. Plus the incentive isn't there yet because it will cost big money to get hydrogen going and the companies that have the money choose not to because it goes against their interests (oil companies).

We either need a bunch of very brave billionaires to get the ball rolling or for the oil companies to get involved and cut their losses with oil.

[edit: Or would they have to cut their losses? When you consider dino powered cars won't die over night and there are a lot of classics which will need dino power to run.]
No, Earth is currently orbiting its star.

Im kind of from the radiohead era. Do you like Bush, Smashing Pumpkins, Muse?
Um, to be honest with you I think that there are only 3 things capable of ending this world at the time being:

1. Nuclear Warfare that goes uncontroled (personaly I find an UNCONTROLED nuclear war to be a near impossability due to UN sactions and the fact that small powers that would most likely start the war would be anhilated by larger countries before they could destroy everything

2. Disese (This is always at the same possability rate and has lessened recently due to medical advances in the last 100 years)

3. Asteroid/Astronomical Event (This is least likely yet, and science may find a way to prevent some of these from effecting us shortly)

Pop/Rap sector of music I agree is going down hill, but then again I never liked either of them in the first place The mosre money spent for useless upgrades and such improves standard of like by improving the economy.

Read 1984 by George Orwell. I don't agree with everything that is said there, but if you reason it out, the only way to industrialize the world and get rid of poverty would be to have a constant war. It sounds rediculous, and I in no way shape or form endorse it, but it is just about the only way to employ the world.

Global Warming.. I won't comment on that, but you could stop using coal and start using millions of manualy powered tread mills to get rid of some of the proposed global warming issues and fight obesity at the same time

As an author who asks himself these kinds of questions while writing constantly, I will also say this: The world as it has been to most people in history has died already. The world changes quicker now, and that is not always a good thing, but I do beleive that world will exist for a long time after this 16 year old has passed away.
Quote from P5YcHoM4N :We either need a bunch of very brave billionaires to get the ball rolling or for the oil companies to get involved and cut their losses with oil.

[edit: Or would they have to cut their losses? When you consider dino powered cars won't die over night and there are a lot of classics which will need dino power to run.]

Oil companies would be wise to invest so that when dino power runs out they still have a viable business...
Quote from Cornys :I do beleive that world will exist for a long time after this 16 year old has passed away.

The world will be around long after humans are wiped out. It is just a sign of the human ego to think we could kill the world. All we're going to kill is each other.

Quote from MAGGOT :Oil companies would be wise to invest so that when dino power runs out they still have a viable business...

True enough. But it seems they are still a little short sighted or just don't want to go public about investing in what is seen as their competition. Mostly because I bet a few of the giants (BP to name one) would lose access to wells in the middle east if they went public about investing in a power supply that would mean the oil nations out there would have nothing to export.
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