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#26 - Smax
DW's pretty good in so much as it's pretty much WYSIWYG, which makes it easy for fools like me who find pretty pictures easy and pretty code far too difficult.
There's nothing wrong with dreamweaver, there's quite a lot wrong with the site posted in the original thread...

Anyway I use iWeb. It makes bloated web sites that need huge bandwidth, has limited editing functionality, but lets me do some stuff I wouldn't have a clue about otherwise ... like RSS feeds and so on. It works for me, I just feel sorry for the people who then visit my pages.

http://www.bansheestudios.com
http://www.beckyrose.com
http://www.bansheestudios.com/Motor%20Racing

Despite their point and click nature and the complete web-inneptitude of the person who made them, i'd say they're all better sites than the "professional" one starting this thread.

I dont meen this in a slap-down way, I just think you should finish your portfolio site before you ask for money.

Here's one that I made using notepad:

http://sailing.bansheestudios.com

Again, better designed (in my opinion) than the fixed width portfolio site posted above.

I say again, i'm a total nob when it comes to making web pages, i'm not interested in web design at all - I just have a need for the actual pages so it's a meens to an end to make them.
My notepad work can be found in my signature, where the 2nd link should be the better choice
Vic is btw using UltraEdit for coding the LFS websites, iirc.
Quote from VorTeX3k :Stop discussing guys.. The site is simply not valid (neither HTML nor CSS) because it is Dreamweaver "coded" (= built / created).


[ ] You know that PHP is not a replacement of HTML
[X] You think that PHP replaces HTML and does not require HTML Code

Think about your sentence. PHP is simply to "generate" HTML code. In any case you'll have to use HTML. Except you want the user to see a blank page though.

i'm sorry ur right, ignore me
ORIONS websites have to be the most well designed websites i have ever seen!

orion, do u do web design at uni or something?
Thx

No Im waiting for game design to start in October
Finally... whee

Well I did some "classic" design course in between, and also as the game design class also contains general design and color harmony stuff blablah
I must admit, that I have really no clue about all those rules, I just make it, and it often looks cool

But honestly I learned a lot just by working together with vic on the current lfsworld design. When we started this, I was a bloody noob webcoder and had made one single website before. But watching at vic, who came up with more and more insane code snipplets every day, I decided to try something myself... result is my personal page, which is still not finished yet though... argh :/
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Yes thats indeed a problem. Both things could be implemented though, but mousewheel scrolling will not work with firefox
[EDIT]well, not really... bookmarking will be crappy as it requires the site to reload in FF[/EDIT]

But yes Im aware of the accessibility being rather crappy. Problem is, before I started this, I had no clue what is possible and what isnt.
Its funny, because the deeper you get into web coding, the more simple your designs will be
Quote from ORION :My notepad work can be found in my signature, where the 2nd link should be the better choice
Vic is btw using UltraEdit for coding the LFS websites, iirc.

Yepp, UltraEdit is very nice for editing web sites but not for free. A good free alternative is Notepad++..
I more and more start prefering this before UltraEdit.

btw: VERY nice and well programmed
to the untrained eye (mine) orions 2nd site is very good
Yes, the design is good, and the code is almost bugfree and valid css/html etc, but there are serious problems when you are using custom scrollbars and reloading content with javascript. For example, mousewheel doesnt work, bookmarking doesnt work, etc etc. Just what kev said
But as my page is an artist page and not a content page, and Im too lazy to trow it all away, Im not gonna change much on it. Just gotta finish the new gallery and thats it...
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Personally, I think the optimal website is one concentrating 90% on usability and 10% on design to move it slightly above a flat Times New Roman website.

I really couldn't care less if that button is animated or some elements smooth scroll over the screen etc etc etc. The colors need to be easy on the eye, the text easy to read and that's it. IMO exactly this is also one of the reasons Google is what it is today. All other search engines I tried back then were mostly so Ad-laden that it was hard to actually find the search results; no way in hell I'm going to use any of these for my daily searching, even if the results might be slightly better in one way or another. Simplicity wins.

The worst era and thankfully one of the biggest failures was that Flash boom with extremely nice looking but completely unusable sites. Geez did I hate those.
Quote from AndroidXP :Times New Roman

God I can't stand that font. Give me font that is mono spaced and I'll be happy for the most part.
That difference is the 10%
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Quote :Just gotta finish the new gallery and thats it...
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The scroll buttons work in Safari btw (Mac). I didnt like the design much though but the other two sites looked good. You have some excellent LFS renders.
Interesting to know that it worked in Safari, I have never tested it on a mac, just once in IE5 for mac... rofl what a crap program...
It's very likely that the page doesn't look as intended, though. (Transparency, fading, 24bit transparent PNGs, etc - no clue if any of those worked at all)

Thx, Im glad you liked my renders, and I guess also the ones from all the other people in the ZT-gallery
Cool
Im sure it will turn out well :up:

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btw, would you be so kind and post a screenshot of my website (franknaggies.com) loaded in Safari? Maybe open the guestbook window, so I can compare. That would be very nice and help me a lot, as I dont have any chance to test on a mac atm.
http://www.bansheestudios.com/Screeny.zip

Sorry for the format, I dont have (and cannot stand Photoshop) and lacked the patience to fire up WindowsXP and convert the file into a proper format, so it's a zipped .png file...

That's what you get for asking a Mac user to do something for you
COOL, thank you

As i expected, transparency doesnt work (with my code that is), and the design looks thus a bit boring.
I will try to fix that somehow.

btw, png is a great image format and you can also upload is it here directly
In fact, png has a better compression than gif in many situations. For photos, one should use jpg though.
I preffer .tga for lossless, and .jpg at 99% or 75% for compression. .png is great for it's transparency support - which is why I hate it because I usually use a croma-key for that .
You mean you are using such a "blue box"-like keycolor in textures for your games? Or in websites?
I only know gif, where you can select one color that shall be transparent, which has the disadvantage (compered to 8 bit transparency in png) that you can't get nice and smooth borders.
Yeah that's the technique, I use black usually. I used to use pink because game graphics rarely use it, but black has advantages with blend modes and with 32 bit colour an off-black is discernable from true black but not discernable to the eye. My needs for alpha are in game programming where I can do what I want with images though and not web pages where you have to work with the true nature of the image.
hey orion, i recall seeing a web template on a "free web templates" website which looks exactly like your zockertemple one. care to explain?
Yea my team mate Devil 007 gave me a screenshot from that, so I cloned all the rest from this corner there
There are more differences than you think when seeing this for the first time. Baisically, only the red ball with the silver border and the grey surface under this are still more or less the same. Everything else is changed.
Quote from ORION :I will try to fix that somehow.

Transparency & fading should work now in Safari
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