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So i ask you.. how not to believe in conspiracy theories? C'mon.. dropped in sea, DNA analysis done by US specialists..
Quote from Boris Lozac :So i ask you.. how not to believe in conspiracy theories? C'mon.. dropped in sea, DNA analysis done by US specialists..

There's no need to jump to a conspiracy based on those two facts.
I know, but it's like they WANT us to create conspiracy theories.. maybe that suits them. Both scenarios sound too 'hollywood' to me, just as in 9/11 events themselves, there's just sooo much fishy stuff around it, but then you wonder in what world are we living at when there are people that organise stuff like that (like 9/11 beeing an inside job), what kind of creatures are they.. how are they sleeping at night... everything's just so messed up.
Because most people here are incapable of any form of thought that isn't given to them by TV.

Actually research publicly available information ? That seems to be far beyond their abilities.

The rumour mill has it that Osama died a number of years ago from kidney failure. But what do european intelligence agencies know !

He was in an American hospital in Dubai when he was met by the CIA head of station in 2001.

" A partner of the administration of the American Hospital in Dubai claims that public enemy number one stayed at this hospital between the 4th and 14th of July. Having taken off from the Quetta airport in Pakistan, bin Laden was transferred to the hospital upon his arrival at Dubai airport. He was accompanied by his personal physician and faithful lieutenant, who could be Ayman al-Zawahari--but on this sources are not entirely certain--, four bodyguards, as well as a male Algerian nurse, and admitted to the American Hospital, a glass and marble building situated between the Al-Garhoud and Al-Maktoum bridges." http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/RIC111B.html


However, despite the fact that he was the no1 wanted by the US no action was taken.


There are then rumours that in the caves of Tora Bora the US facilitated his escape.


"A US Special Forces soldier stationed in Fayetteville, North Carolina, later (anonymously) claims that the US has bin Laden pinned in a certain Tora Bora cave on this day, but fails to act. Special Forces soldiers allegedly sit by waiting for orders and watch two helicopters fly into the area where bin Laden is believed to be, load up passengers, and fly toward Pakistan. No other soldiers have come forward to corroborate the story, but bin Laden is widely believed to have been in the Tora Bora area at the time. [Fayetteville Observer, 8/2/2002] Newsweek separately reports that many locals “claim that mysterious black helicopters swept in, flying low over the mountains at night, and scooped up al-Qaeda’s top leaders.” [Newsweek, 8/11/2002] Perhaps coincidentally, on the same day this story is reported, months after the fact, the media also will report a recent spate of strange deaths at the same military base in Fayetteville. Five soldiers and their wives died since June 2002 in apparent murder-suicides. At least three were Special Forces soldiers recently returned from Afghanistan. [Independent, 8/2/2002] Other reports indicate that bin Laden crosses the border into Pakistan by foot instead (see November 28-30, 2001)." http://www.historycommons.org/ ... f_tora_bora_and_aftermath


And, of course when they do eventually catch up with him his body is dumped at sea !


Well, that ensures that there is no evidence that his bodies been on ice for years.


Great, the US can have street parties and whatever but for anyone with a functioning brain cell the key sentence is that you all need to be scared of more terror attacks.


I expect that means more child molestation by the TSA, (and isn't it wonderful to see that the US has a career structure for pedophiles) and removing even more civil liberties.


Another interesting point is that the US never officially wanted him for 911, but I don't expect that fact to be relevent either.

Update: no dialysis equipment was found in the house he was "killed" in, strange for someone suffering from kidney failure who according to the US has been there for months ........
Or it may only be NZ that bothers to report this info ?
Quote from Boris Lozac :I know, but it's like they WANT us to create conspiracy theories.. maybe that suits them.

Or people are just too curious and when there isn't enough information provided it is automatically proven false or is a "conspiracy theory".

"Guilty until proven innocent"

Quote :Both scenarios sound too 'hollywood' to me, just as in 9/11 events themselves, there's just sooo much fishy stuff around it, but then you wonder in what world are we living at when there are people that organise stuff like that (like 9/11 beeing an inside job), what kind of creatures are they.. how are they sleeping at night... everything's just so messed up.

Look up the random deaths of people in the Apollo missions to the moon. There's alot of inside stuff going on, nobody can be that naive not to think that, but that doesn't mean everything is.


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Quote from Boris Lozac :I know, but it's like they WANT us to create conspiracy theories.. maybe that suits them. Both scenarios sound too 'hollywood' to me, just as in 9/11 events themselves, there's just sooo much fishy stuff around it, but then you wonder in what world are we living at when there are people that organise stuff like that (like 9/11 beeing an inside job), what kind of creatures are they.. how are they sleeping at night... everything's just so messed up.

The people who are prone to creating conspiracy theories can create them out of any set of facts. It's just what they do. Look at Racer X, for example.
So what's your view on this then.. it's pure coincidence this happened now with libya and egypt and whole arab uprising thing..
Quote from Boris Lozac :So what's your view on this then.. it's pure coincidence this happened now with libya and egypt and whole arab uprising thing..

According to the reports I've read from credible news sources, the house where Osama was camping out was singled out in August 2010 by intelligence reports and confirmed in February 2011. Then there were meetings starting in March regarding what to do about it. Obama held five national security meetings, and the last one was held on April 28. He gave the order to take action on the 29th.

But to answer your question, no, I don't think it's pure coincidence.

I'm sure it wasn't coincidence that he gave the go order for the operation this week, and I have no doubt he's exceedingly happy that they managed to pull this off right at this moment... both because it will distract somewhat from rising gas prices and the mess in Libya, and because it's a pretty sick if superficial burn to Trump and the rest of the loony right-wingers, regardless of how they try to spin it.

But I also don't think the body's been on ice for the better part of a decade (as *lol* Infowars *lol* would have us believe), and I do believe it is Osama that they got, and I do believe they buried him at sea for the reasons I already posted.
Quote from DeKo :12 hours is plenty of time to use facial recognition software and perform DNA tests to confirm it's really him

Maybe if he was killed in the US. They had to get the DNA to a lab from a remote city in Pakistan. And the lab had to be ready RIGHT there in the middle of the night local time to finish so quickly.
I'm sure it's possible, but only if they had a full laboratory with expensive machines somewhere in Pakistan.
I noted a couple of things about this which DWB has already gone over. Personally, I really didn't like the way that this killing translated into a tired speech about America being the greatest nation on earth, etc. That's probably a good way to inflame your enemies. And while I do appreciate the need for 'closure', this isn't exactly a celebration. Cheering the death of anyone, even someone like Bin Laden- is kinda repulsive. A 'good riddance' is about all anyone should muster in an event like this.

PS (conspiracy theory no.86). Do you think they took Osama's DNA in order to clone him? That would be like, the greatest come back evah...
Quote from pearcy_2k7 :I'm not scared, it's funny you saying that though, obviously living in Austria you don't have **** all to worry about.

C'mon then Einstein, how do you get rid of terrorism without violence? Enlighten me...

So living in a country whose politic is not to interfere with interior matters of other countries decreases the risk of a terrorist attack... You don't have to be Einstein to see the pattern there...

Violence isn't effective against ideologies, that's also no rocket science... Education and wealth seem to "get rid" of fanatics pretty fast - at least that's what history tells us...
Everything can't be solved without violence. Disagreements can't always be solved because people will cling to a belief way beyond reasoning. So if we agree that disagreements HAVE to be solved, we resort to violence.

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Quote from DeadWolfBones :According to the reports I've read from credible news sources, the house where Osama was camping out was singled out in August 2010 by intelligence reports and confirmed in February 2011. Then there were meetings starting in March regarding what to do about it.

This story gets less believable all the time. If the US military had the slightest whiff of suspicion in August 2010 that a baddie was in a house they would've bombed the sorry shite out of the place and then not quite apologised later when it turned out to be an orphanage.
Quote from DeadWolfBones :In this case there's at least a sense of justice done (though I know this is debatable depending on your perspective)

same can be said about eg palestinians celebrating the death of people from the country that provided the money and weapons to kill their families
Another update: Watch your news media

It's all Parkistans fault and they are supporting Al Quida (do some research on what Al Quida is - LOL)

If you watch the game you'll understand whats happening.
Another update: Racer X continues to post unfounded crap!

p.s it's well reported Osama had Kidney issues and what happened at Tora Bora but seriously give your conspiracy nonsense a rest.
Quote from PMD9409 :Or people are just too curious and when there isn't enough information provided it is automatically proven false or is a "conspiracy theory".

"Guilty until proven innocent"

Well, isn't this a good enough proof that USA Gov is BS-ing all of us? Next thing that comes to my mind is "why would they do that?". And there you go... the whole field for all sorts of theories just opens, because THEY decided to open it with job so "intelligenty" done that it took less than 24hrs to amateurs to unmusk it.
Why would they do it??

Quote from PMD9409 :Look up the random deaths of people in the Apollo missions to the moon. There's alot of inside stuff going on, nobody can be that naive not to think that, but that doesn't mean everything is.

Interestingly, I recently came upon a documentary of Jose Escamilla. There are just too many credible people that stated that they would repeat what they said in the movie under oath in front of US Congress.
I'm not saying it is or it isn't, but just looking at the facts.

Also, Michael Moore's documentaries such as "9/11" bring much more facts that we were given by the USA Gov... and those are very strange facts that keep bringing "why" questions in my head.

If, for example, my neighbor would use such lies, I wouldn't worry... but when such an influential country does, I do worry...

It is obvious that the public has been denied the major informations on many subjects during past decades and I certainly won't buy this one as a fact, especially when there is absolutely no proof that they have actually done it.

But the question remains: why would they try to plant a poorly 'shopped photo as a proof that they killed Bin Laden?
The US has never held an enquiry into 911 that didn't result in ALL the members of the enquiry team stating that their report was lies.

And I provide conspiracy theories ? !!!!!!!
Turns out you can take out your bin on a bank holiday.
Quote from Racer X NZ :
And I provide conspiracy theories ? !!!!!!!

If you click on your profile and click "view my posts" then you will see tthat you do.
And your factual disagreement with my post is ? .......

Wrap your hand around your brain and rub vigorously..........
As I mentioned in another post my brain is in my head thus that would only provide me with a wrinkly forehead and funny eyes.

My factual disagreement is the fact that you posted it. I'm not going to disect each post you make because a) I don't have time, b) I can't be bothered.
This is a major event, and so theres no doubt that its linked to ALL major events throughout history as the workings of a group of space lizards in disguise who want to control your minds for... what gain I don't know. But thats unimportant to my theory!

I know this because I read a couple of internet pages that said so, I'm reciting them word for word because if its alternative it MUST be true!
Quote from sermilan :Well, isn't this a good enough proof that USA Gov is BS-ing all of us? Next thing that comes to my mind is "why would they do that?". And there you go... the whole field for all sorts of theories just opens, because THEY decided to open it with job so "intelligenty" done that it took less than 24hrs to amateurs to unmusk it.
Why would they do it??

That photo was around months before the announcement, and was debunked long ago.
It's all fake and made up fantasy. A royal wedding and a killing in the same weekend? Can't you spot a Disney movie when you see one?

Osama Bin Ladens body has been found.
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