Hey programmers!

I have seen many Telemetry - kind been made. But as i can see, they all must connect to internet via InSim. But can you make one for personal use? I mean, like for endurance races training, you can see the best laptime, average laptime and fuel consumption (Overall and average) etc, so for example I could minimize the programm and ceep racing? Dont really need the positioning, get it myself (), but if its possible to make, it whould be really good.

Hoping for a reply

Aonio can produce a text file with a list of laptimes etc, it also gives estimated laps remaining with your fuel, an Airio-style pb/tb thing, etc.

Quote from boothy :

Aonio can produce a text file with a list of laptimes etc, it also gives estimated laps remaining with your fuel, an Airio-style pb/tb thing, etc.

Yes, but that uses .NET frame and InSim aswell. But cant it be made layoutwise and usewise, like LFSTweak. I dont need to change anything on LFS (Not Tweak comp.), but i hope you catch my drift here. It whould be good, if i'd join a training session, crack this thing on and drive a stint, and later maybe minimize LFS when im finished. It whould be like a quiet smurf on my shoulder, counting laps and fuel :O

So? Anyone? Noone cares to program such a thing?

Are you sure Aoino can't help you with that? Application you're talking about would need to utilize both InSim and OutGauge to get all the data you need.

It sounds like a kinda interesting project though and not all that hard to code. Question is who (besides you) would actually use it.

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Yes, but that uses .NET frame and InSim aswell. But cant it be made layoutwise and usewise, like LFSTweak. I dont need to change anything on LFS (Not Tweak comp.), but i hope you catch my drift here. It whould be good, if i'd join a training session, crack this thing on and drive a stint, and later maybe minimize LFS when im finished. It whould be like a quiet smurf on my shoulder, counting laps and fuel :O

I don't get you. How can you possible get lap times etc without connecting to LFS via insim? LFS stats, Aonio + a spreadsheet, and even the WolleT MoE tracker can do what you want if you know PHP/MySQL.

Eh. Your saying its not possible to count laps or fuel from lfs.exe without InSim? There must be... I dont know much about programming, thatswhy im issuing it here, but I think there's a way to set something running via .exe to LFS. Maybe its possible to get data via RAM? (Maybe just 5mb ram use :O)

And to MadCat: Well, if I use Aoino, i could get distracted about watching laptimes etc. If its minimized on desktop and I see normal LFS race screen people wont get distracted about average time over 3 laps or fuel used etc. And who whould use it besides me? Well, I offered such an idea up to Cargame.nl, some seemed rather interested. It would improve our skills aswell.

Im asking for it, because im a simple person, i dont know much about software nor computers. I want a software, that I run and programmed stuff records the data for further analysing. I've read that ingame you have to write something /insim=299999? smthin. And than i run something and it just confuses me. I might sound like a complete retard, but i've tryed and tryed. I just didnt get it working not with Aonio nor any other telemetry app posted to forum.

I hope i've clarified enough

InSim and OutGauge are network interfaces that allow other apps to talk to LFS. Reading data directly from RAM is technically possible but it has a lot of downsides that don't make it really suitable to use in a telemetry logging app.

I agree that AONIO is not really mean to be used as a telemetry logging app and it certainly doesn't have all the options a proper telemetry logger should have. A proper logger would have to use both InSim and OutGauge to get all the data it needs. I'm not making any promises or anything but I might look into this when I'm less busy with my real life The idea of writing a full-blown telemetry analyzer with all sorts of recording and exporting options sounds kinda challenging to me...

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Eh. Your saying its not possible to count laps or fuel from lfs.exe without InSim? There must be... I dont know much about programming, thatswhy im issuing it here, but I think there's a way to set something running via .exe to LFS. Maybe its possible to get data via RAM? (Maybe just 5mb ram use :O)

And to MadCat: Well, if I use Aoino, i could get distracted about watching laptimes etc. If its minimized on desktop and I see normal LFS race screen people wont get distracted about average time over 3 laps or fuel used etc. And who whould use it besides me? Well, I offered such an idea up to Cargame.nl, some seemed rather interested. It would improve our skills aswell.

Im asking for it, because im a simple person, i dont know much about software nor computers. I want a software, that I run and programmed stuff records the data for further analysing. I've read that ingame you have to write something /insim=299999? smthin. And than i run something and it just confuses me. I might sound like a complete retard, but i've tryed and tryed. I just didnt get it working not with Aonio nor any other telemetry app posted to forum.

I hope i've clarified enough

Fuel is from outgauge. If you can somehow find the memory values from RAM then be my guest at making an app.

You can turn Aonio buttons off by press shift + B, make sure you read the documentation because it's all in there http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9725404/lfs_00000032.bmp is an example of basically everything on Aonio, just to show you - but I only have half of that stuff on. Also attached is the text file of times Aonio produces.

Also you don't need to type "/insim=29999" every time - just add it to the LFS/data/script/autoexec.lfs text file.

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Fuel is from outgauge. If you can somehow find the memory values from RAM then be my guest at making an app.

You can turn Aonio buttons off by press shift + B, make sure you read the documentation because it's all in there http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9725404/lfs_00000032.bmp is an example of basically everything on Aonio, just to show you - but I only have half of that stuff on. Also attached is the text file of times Aonio produces.

Also you don't need to type "/insim=29999" every time - just add it to the LFS/data/script/autoexec.lfs text file.

As i sayd, im not a programmer, so i cant find any values anywhere

So, if I understand correctly, I can see the recorded data on somekinda spreadsheet in (LFS) folder, as recorded data of laptimes and fuelconsumption? (" Also attached is the text file of times Aonio produces.")

And looking a the text you posted, I seriously cant work out what is what. Loads of numbers, no tags. :O

Yeah, okay. I get it, that its nearly impossible to get all the data without using ATLEAST OutGauge?

And to MadCat : Go ahead, if you feel like it, it whould make life easyer for people, who dont understand computers/programming/coding much

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Yeah, okay. I get it, that its nearly impossible to get all the data without using ATLEAST OutGauge?

OutGauge is a must, full telemetry log would probably benefit from OutSim and InSim too. There's no reason to be concerned about it, you don't need an university degree to enable these in LFS.

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OutGauge is a must, full telemetry log would probably benefit from OutSim and InSim too. There's no reason to be concerned about it, you don't need an university degree to enable these in LFS.

Yeah, but as it seems, like i'm a retard at those stuff, i need outside help evidently

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Yeah, but as it seems, like i'm a retard at those stuff, i need outside help evidently

We were all retards once, but by learning and reading you become smarter

Quote from Ghost.. :

As i sayd, im not a programmer, so i cant find any values anywhere

So, if I understand correctly, I can see the recorded data on somekinda spreadsheet in (LFS) folder, as recorded data of laptimes and fuelconsumption? (" Also attached is the text file of times Aonio produces.")

And looking a the text you posted, I seriously cant work out what is what. Loads of numbers, no tags. :O

Yeah, okay. I get it, that its nearly impossible to get all the data without using ATLEAST OutGauge?

And to MadCat : Go ahead, if you feel like it, it whould make life easyer for people, who dont understand computers/programming/coding much

Aonio will produce a list of laptimes yes, you should be able to import that into a spreadsheet for working out averages etc. I don't get what you're on about with tags... the data is: username, track, car, lap number, splits, lap time.

Fuel data isn't produced, but the laps remaining on current fuel is shown in Aonio. I don't really know why you need fuel data anyway - what do you do now to calculate fuel usage? Do 10 laps, check fuel used, work out % per lap?

I use it for stints, i can see where im using too much fuel and where i can save fuel by shifting up, but not losing time (or not much). As you know, its good to ceep car out there for longest on endu races, and with fuel data, we whould have vague idea of how long the car could be out there. Overall and lap fuel consumption helps me realize, what do i do wrong and where the extra fuel goes. Than we can make strategy

And the tags were missing, I just saw bunch of numbers. Now you explained what everything is, but for first time users it might be confusing At the very top should be those tags. " the data is: username, track, car, lap number, splits, lap time."

And another thing : "Aonio will produce a list of laptimes yes, you should be able to import that into a spreadsheet for working out averages etc" - Why couldnt the program automatically do it? When i stop session, it works out average lap time, average splits and average fuel consumtion ? (Maybe just show it like: Best lap time / Average lap time.