hm i figured i should post my arrangements since ive tried fine tuning mine for a while

red buttons on the wheel used for sideview

right paddle handbrake, left paddle nothign unless using sequential. when in sequential i dont have a handbrake.

top black button on shifter pit speed limiter

left and right i forgot but nothing important

down black button is traction control

on the D-pad. up left and right arent used for anything

down on D-pad is used for resetting car

left red button is to look behind
2nd red button(from the left on all of these) is horn
3rd red button is flash
last red button is ignition.


this is the best method for me since i switch between rally, road car racing, and drift alot. i almost never race cars requiring sequential gears. sorry for long post but it was the easiest way to may it clear and readable.

I personally use the top black button on the shifter to use the handbrake in LFS, it works for me quite well. I also made a "holding" command for the handbrake, it holds the handbrake when activated (just like a real car), even in gear. It's useful when parking in a cruise server. If someone bumps my car, it won't go rolling down the road (and probably cause an accident).

But for some other games (that I prefer to use the paddles, or games that have no proper gearing systems), I use the H-gate on sequential mode for the handbrake. It gives me a faint idea of what a handbrake should feel like, (I never drove a real car though).

I am however quite lazy to make my own handbrake, or to go out and buy a joystick.

I'll post my setup as well, as some are already

POV pad to look (pressing the corner buttons between top and side show 45* and the side buttons show 90*, all buttons that are on the lower side, including corners, show rear view)

Left red button on wheel + paddles turn left and right turning signals on (and off), and bottom black button on shifter turns all signals on (and off).

Starter on far right red button on shifter (convenient enough for me)

Headlights on far left button (I made them turn on and off, instead of just flashing)

Handbrake on top black button (same comment as beginning of post)

I have mapped shifting on the paddles and the H-gate's sequential mode (thanks to external programs).

I use my right paddle shifter for handbreak Never drive non H Shifter cars anyway, what's the fun :P

Quote from Zipppy :

I personally use the top black button on the shifter to use the handbrake in LFS, it works for me quite well. I also made a "holding" command for the handbrake, it holds the handbrake when activated (just like a real car), even in gear. It's useful when parking in a cruise server. If someone bumps my car, it won't go rolling down the road (and probably cause an accident).

But for some other games (that I prefer to use the paddles, or games that have no proper gearing systems), I use the H-gate on sequential mode for the handbrake. It gives me a faint idea of what a handbrake should feel like, (I never drove a real car though).

I am however quite lazy to make my own handbrake, or to go out and buy a joystick.

I'll post my setup as well, as some are already

POV pad to look (pressing the corner buttons between top and side show 45* and the side buttons show 90*, all buttons that are on the lower side, including corners, show rear view)

Left red button on wheel + paddles turn left and right turning signals on (and off), and bottom black button on shifter turns all signals on (and off).

Starter on far right red button on shifter (convenient enough for me)

Headlights on far left button (I made them turn on and off, instead of just flashing)

Handbrake on top black button (same comment as beginning of post)

I have mapped shifting on the paddles and the H-gate's sequential mode (thanks to external programs).

first of all, nice setup, if you park in a cruise server, you should leave the car in gear, when it is off so it does not move. also how do you set a handbrake lock with the handbrake being an axis? i have the profiler. (but i dont really know how to use it :razz for the lights, instead of them being just flash, how do you do that? i assume it is with the profiler, but i don know how to use it either way

Quote from logitekg25 :

first of all, nice setup, if you park in a cruise server, you should leave the car in gear, when it is off so it does not move. also how do you set a handbrake lock with the handbrake being an axis? i have the profiler. (but i dont really know how to use it :razz for the lights, instead of them being just flash, how do you do that? i assume it is with the profiler, but i don know how to use it either way

I used the profiler and a similar program called "Xpadder" for both. There is a new Xpadder release (July 23rd) but it is not free. (It costs $19 if I remember correctly, paid through the internet)

My handbrake is a simply a button mapped to a key on the keyboard with the profiler. I used the left wheel button as a "shift" button to activate the secondary mode of the handbrake button, which is mapped to itself if pressed in shift mode in the profiler. I mapped a "toggle" command in Xpadder to the key I set as the handbrake.

The lights were done by using Xpadder (The profiler hasn't been able to "hold" a control really, it just had a repeat rate option). I mapped the button to the key that makes the headlights flash (by default, "G"). One drawback is that it constantly keeps pressing "G", and it messes up a chat message. I think a possible solution would be to make the script press backspace after it presses "G". (it's the same way tommy did on his strobe program and it worked for him).

Also, in case anyone is curious, the way I made looking (incrementally I think, but I don't know the proper word to describe it) possible was the same kind of idea as above, and mapped some of the POV's buttons (left, right and down) in LFS and the rest in Xpadder (in addition to the left and right buttons), the left button is mapped to the right look in Xpadder and vice versa.

The profiler can't have more than 1 assignment at once per control (ie. If you map a button in the profiler to "A", the ingame control will go to "A", and not the button's control itself). If you map it in Xpadder, it goes to the button's command and to the set key in Xpadder.

I will test the method said a few paragraphs above, and share my findings.

EDIT:I found that backspace worked in a way, but it did not allow chat messages to show, It erases everything, I should try a quicker speed to see if it improves.

but how do you use the profiler

Don't understand using red buttons, because the shifter's in the way for me. From RBR (if not using paddles to shift), I decided on the top black button, which allows you to grab the console of the shifter as a physical reference and support while operating button with thumb when wrestling the wheel around tight corners. Stops you falling off your chair too.

i dont have to worry about falling out of my chair...i have a makeshift cockpit

it does the job

Quote from Zipppy :

I will test the method said a few paragraphs above, and share my findings.

EDIT:I found that backspace worked in a way, but it did not allow chat messages to show, It erases everything, I should try a quicker speed to see if it improves.

You could make it so that when you press 't' (or whatever your chat key is) it'll disable it and then if you press either enter or escape it turns back on.

Quote from c00kie :

I use the right button on the wheel and the left button is horn.

Thats why there are so many crashes, you have the wrong buttons assigned thus you dont get to see who's racing next to you...
Now i understand the panic at T1!

On the subject of handbrakes

I have tried to make my Attack3 Logitech joystick work as a handbrake on its Y-Axis.

When you first start the PC and LFS the axis is centred. This makes the handbrake half on half off all the time in LFS. I tried using a spring to pull it to one end but this ruins the auto calibration when you reboot PC as it thinks the stick is centred when it is actually pulled to one end and then it goes nuts. How do you guys set up a joystick effectively as a handbrake in LFS?

Essentially, how do you make it so a centred joystick is handbrake off so it only uses half the axis... how is it done? I read here Logitekg25 does it with his so it must be possible.

Thanks for any help.

Quote from JasonJ :

On the subject of handbrakes

I have tried to make my Attack3 Logitech joystick work as a handbrake on its Y-Axis.

When you first start the PC and LFS the axis is centred. This makes the handbrake half on half off all the time in LFS. I tried using a spring to pull it to one end but this ruins the auto calibration when you reboot PC as it thinks the stick is centred when it is actually pulled to one end and then it goes nuts. How do you guys set up a joystick effectively as a handbrake in LFS?

Essentially, how do you make it so a centred joystick is handbrake off so it only uses half the axis... how is it done? I read here Logitekg25 does it with his so it must be possible.

Thanks for any help.

tweak for logitech forget what it is called

Ah ok I see. thnx

I've been googling a while now. Too many items to really find anything specific. Do you use a Logitech SPECIFIC tweak program or is it DX Tweak?

edit1: Ok downloaded DXTweak2.exe - which has a description of Logitech DX Tweaker Application
Is this the one? I don't wanna install something that might mess everything up in DirectX Input.
edit2: OK, read some forums on it, seems safe enough to give it a go.
edit3: Holy crapola, I just jizzed in my pants - works awesome. Analoge handbrake heaven. TYVM Logitekg25
edit4: It's a shame that you cannot save profiles in it. Crashes as soon as I try to save my own tweak in WinXP

Quote from LSDBlackWolf :

Thats why there are so many crashes, you have the wrong buttons assigned thus you dont get to see who's racing next to you...
Now i understand the panic at T1!

Blame it on me, I've got my look buttons assigned to left/right on the hat/FOV whatever it's called, close to the shifter which I use quite often

Quote from JasonJ :

Ah ok I see. thnx

I've been googling a while now. Too many items to really find anything specific. Do you use a Logitech SPECIFIC tweak program or is it DX Tweak?

edit1: Ok downloaded DXTweak2.exe - which has a description of Logitech DX Tweaker Application
Is this the one? I don't wanna install something that might mess everything up in DirectX Input.
edit2: OK, read some forums on it, seems safe enough to give it a go.
edit3: Holy crapola, I just jizzed in my pants - works awesome. Analoge handbrake heaven. TYVM Logitekg25
edit4: It's a shame that you cannot save profiles in it. Crashes as soon as I try to save my own tweak in WinXP

it crashes for me too, just set it, and save it if you can...i think there is an option that lets you try to continue instead of close it...if not dont try to save and just exit out, it should still work

sorry for not being specific, i was getting yelled at by my dad to get off but i just had to help you

EDIT: just read the readme file, i think that gave me valuable info about how to save it on winxp

I know it's an old topic, but I didn't read that version (G25 + handbrake):

-When I'm using the wheel's paddles for shifting up and down, then the G25's shifter is in sequental mode, so there is only 2 "speed": upshift (pulling the shifter knob) and downshift (pushing it) (Like in a Wtcc/Wrc car). So then I 'operate' the "upshift" (pulling the shifter knob, almost like using a handbrake) for handbrake.
-When "I'm in H-shifter mode", one of the wheel's paddle is the handbrake.

It's pretty comfortable.

I turn the brake balance towards the back on all my drift setups, the just use the brake to slide it.

It depends how you drive ... if you use the h-shifter the best it will be one of the buttons in the shifter unit ... if not ... the Space key on keyboard will be a good choice

Imho, if you don't use the h-shifter, put it into sequential position, and pull it back to you. This comes closest to a real e-brake I think.

Handbrake is the right red button.

I have the paddles bound to look left/right, which I find fantastic. You can also hit one, then keeping that held down, hit the other to look behind in most games (in LFS you look further round, not behind).

I loose the use of the paddles for gears, but I so rarely drive cars that would use them, it doesn't matter.

Quote from LSDBlackWolf :

I always drive with H-pattern shifter and assigned the right side red button on the shifter unit as handbrake and I can easily reach it with my middle finger and sometimes with my thumb!

used that button in 3year drifting and bought a logitec attack 3 just because to get axis ebrake.. now im not driftin annymore and the redbutton is used once again. but mostly only after races when standing still somewhere waiting for restarts.

(annyone wanna buy a logitec attack 3??)

Quote from Crashgate3 :

You can also hit one, then keeping that held down, hit the other to look behind in most games (in LFS you look further round, not behind).

If you change One Button Look to eg. 65* it will sum up when both buttons are used, so a situation behind will be pretty visible.

Quote from pasibrzuch :

If you change One Button Look to eg. 65* it will sum up when both buttons are used, so a situation behind will be pretty visible.

I run a 160 degree FOV anyway, so I can see behind if the driver only just looks over his shoulder