Especially given the amount of fake charities that are propped up by those taxes!
Especially given the amount of fake charities that are propped up by those taxes!
Care to fill us in on the exact amount?
How can buying $1000 of heroin and turning it into $3000 be a bad thing?
To all you ****witts havin a go and using the excuse that my attitude resulted in no donations at all from all the people I know here that's bullshit.
I've been around years, I've given endlessly to this community and even my last post was a gift to you guys. I've given you software, discounts for your real cars, an entertaining league podcast and the CTRA, I gave you bump and jump and hires textures in game.
This post had plenty of views and no replies when it dropped off the page, and I realised a controversial post would at least get some discussion going so I called it as it is: despite knowing some LFSrs in real life having been to numerous LFS events, the total raised from this community is £0
LFSrs are selfish twats who are only interested in what's in it for them. But of course the real issue here is my attitude, because when I asked nicely it was so much easier to just ignore me - but when I tell you to suck your own cancerous heameroids you find it that much harder to pass unnoticed as a selfish twat.
I've been around years, I've given endlessly to this community and even my last post was a gift to you guys. I've given you software, discounts for your real cars, an entertaining league podcast and the CTRA, I gave you bump and jump and hires textures in game.
This post had plenty of views and no replies when it dropped off the page, and I realised a controversial post would at least get some discussion going so I called it as it is: despite knowing some LFSrs in real life having been to numerous LFS events, the total raised from this community is £0
LFSrs are selfish twats who are only interested in what's in it for them. But of course the real issue here is my attitude, because when I asked nicely it was so much easier to just ignore me - but when I tell you to suck your own cancerous heameroids you find it that much harder to pass unnoticed as a selfish twat.
u mad bro?
Troll lacks originality.
And is a tight ****.
And is a tight ****.
She mad.
Typical lefties Becky, not a charitable bone in their body because Mr State is there to tax everyone else and pay for everything until everyone is poor hehe
Anyway, I £5 donated to MS Trust. Better than nowt
Anyway, I £5 donated to MS Trust. Better than nowt
Honestly, its's you who are selfish. Because of few friends getting MS you feel it's the most important thing in the world. Tell me, what does giving money for MS do? MS is not curable, it can't be prevented and the money goes basically to therapists of some sort.
About 25000 people die every day of hunger every day. Instead you want to give your money to your friends because you can't see the big picture. 5$ will save the lives of few people in Africa and 5$ for MS doesn't save anyone.
Or how about giving money for cancer funds? I bet my ass that if your friends had gotten stomach cancer you'd be raising money for curing cancer. That actually would have been better for everyone since giving money to cancer funds actually saves lives.
Or maybe invest in a well for some African country and save hundreds of people dying on thirst and infections. (with few hundred dollars you can buy a well so you have raised enough money for it)
But no, you support MS. I don't judge you but demanding others to give money to MS and calling them names for not giving money to your cause is just stupid. Remember, money you use is always away from something else. If you have excess money and use it to MS instead of Africa you could have saved lives but chose not to.
So if you could keep more of your own money, the proportion of your wealth you would give to charity would reduce? Odd stance.
Are you seriously that naive to believe there is no ulterior motive? All the richest are asking for is a higher price for entry to the rich club. They already have their mass of wealth and assets, so paying a bit more tax won't really effect them as they have systems to evade it anyway. Who it will effect is those trying to aspire to that level of wealth. Those who are not backed up by billions in the bank and assets. Those who can't afford to evade the tax man. The rich don't want to share power.
It's quite common for tax revenues to go up when taxes are deduced, and as people have more money in their pocket they tend to be more charitable. The whole 'Buffet tax' idea works in the opposite direction and is about power and control.
This religious belief in high taxation for the better of society, is not just naive.... but scary.
The hunger crisis and cancer won't be solved by money either. There are politics, subisidies, diets, lifestyles that all have just a big effect.
The fact MS can not be cured means charitable donations is more than more worthy. Cancer can be prevented or at least tackled with better diets and lifestyles (which costs nothing), and the hunger crisis is as much a political issue regarding farm subsidies etc... than it is a charitable one. If the MS Trust helps something that isn't curable (is it not, I don't know?) than that's worthy to donate to help people.
Every cause has its merits. You can't say one is more worthy than the other. For society to function you need philanthropic diversity.
I love the internet.
If i could hug it. I would.
If i could hug it. I would.
Did I say they will be solved? Giving money however, does save people's lives. and that way boost the country's economy which will then show most likely as an increase in their wellfare. That's a fact.
Cancer can't be completely prevented by anything you do. There's always a chance of getting cancer. Think about Saku Koivu, a professional athlete who eats right, does sports and almost never drinks. Still he got a cancer in his mid-career. The problem with cancer is that there is not enough equipment everywhere and that costs. Getting proper equipment everywhere will tackle the cancer some. And some of the cancer funds' money is going to the exact thing your MS money is going to - to the sick person's family as a treatment on how to continue normal life.
I'm not saying MS shouldn't be completely forgotten but in the end it's everyone's OWN choice where to give the money.
Actually ethics allow us to do that by comparing the advantages and disadvantages but I won't go to it now. I'm just asking: if you have 2 friends and one is starving (for reasons that are not his fault) and the other has MS would you give money to the starving one to save his life or give money for your MS pal? You have to choose one.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/f ... bout-the-squeezed-middle/
Most people can keep just 27p in every £1 they earn in the UK, YET we wonder why people aren't as charitable as they could be. All that tax and the UK is hardly a haven of love and glory. All this big government big tax ideology ... where has it got us? Bankrupt and a bunch of charitable douches
Most people can keep just 27p in every £1 they earn in the UK, YET we wonder why people aren't as charitable as they could be. All that tax and the UK is hardly a haven of love and glory. All this big government big tax ideology ... where has it got us? Bankrupt and a bunch of charitable douches
You either didn't understand that article or you deliberately misread it for impact here.
I've bolded some of the most relevant bits for you.
41% Clawback, This is the money that they used to get in benefits but is slowly withdrawn at 41p for every £1 they earn over the magic figure. They still keep the 59p.
Clawing back benefits is NOT a tax it's withdrawing free money.
Sensationalist journalism at it's best.
On the other hand, how much the average person keeps of every £1 he earns due to both direct and indirect taxation is another matter entirely.
Must admit I skimmed it
Though I do recall figures of up to 60+% on the real tax rate on low earners when u consider all taxes -direct & indirect. Such an apathetic lazy society we live in.
If she had said "Most LFS Forum users are.." then that would have been more fair.
Why do I need to be fair when I didn't get a single pledge out of you guys?
I actually lost a lot of faith in this community over the last week, I don't think I'll be doing my Xmas gift this year.
I actually lost a lot of faith in this community over the last week, I don't think I'll be doing my Xmas gift this year.
I guess the community must not like furries? 
Actually I'm a shaven haven.
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Becky, read my PM. 
Edit:
I quit smoking btw, already for 3 weeks, no problems at all.
Edit:
I quit smoking btw, already for 3 weeks, no problems at all.
Nice thought Becky 
Sorry to see it trolled so hard, im going to say it the way I think I should, without a trollish attitude. Its not for me, I made a promise not to give any more.
Wish you the best of luck though, its a turely selfless thing to do and quite admirable.
Sorry to see it trolled so hard, im going to say it the way I think I should, without a trollish attitude. Its not for me, I made a promise not to give any more.
Wish you the best of luck though, its a turely selfless thing to do and quite admirable.
JPearce, I am on £15,000 a year. I have a car which costs me £2200 a year to insure. I have my own flat, I have £10,000 of finance against my name, and yet I could find money to donate £8 a month to NSPCC. I do get some help from my parents but this is normally a bit of shopping here and there, I am still self supporting and buy most of my own food.
Becky isn't expecting anyone to cough up, she was merely asking. And she's disappointed that not one person has donated anything, but plenty of people have used the thrower of flames in her general direction. She is quite angry about this which is probably fuelling her fire making her aggressive but she was pushed halfway
Becky isn't expecting anyone to cough up, she was merely asking. And she's disappointed that not one person has donated anything, but plenty of people have used the thrower of flames in her general direction. She is quite angry about this which is probably fuelling her fire making her aggressive but she was pushed halfway
Wait, you ask us to pay for every day you don't smoke anymore? What kind of bs is that?
illepallIsn't the extra cash and the no urge to cough again in the morning reward enough? (btw, I quit smoking in 2004)
No question about MS awareness/charity , that's a good thing! - but I don't get what it should have to do with a bad habit of yours...
Giving Up for MS Trust
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