MS charity, well any charity helping people in critical situations, like deseases, poverty or enviromental protection and so on, is important but it always is a very personal decision and cannot be forced. But either way, if you donate or not, it both is selfish. Why do you donate? Because you feel good afterwards. Why do you not donate? Because you can spend money on other stuff which makes you feel good.

Also, speaking to a large crowd saying that help is needed results either in a large wave of support, or in silent idleness. It is like in a theatre, if there are not enough people start to applaud, there won't be standing ovations. Chatting personally to people results in the elimination of the group dynamics.

Anyways, from the course of the discussion I fear that this is doomed.

Quote from JPeace :

It's JPeace, no R.

Well you are in a lucky situation, people are in worse, and I really dislike the fact Becky is calling around saying it is unfair. What is unfair is people who don't get any support from any charity and have to fend for themselves. I understand her frustration that she is having difficulty raising money for the charity, but as I have said, if I had the money I would donate - but I don't and this does not make me a heartless bastard, I just can't afford it.

I don't think Becky is calling you heartless because you can't afford to donate. I see no comments directly at you, just at the forum populous in general. If you want to take it personally that's your call. And sorry I spelt your name incorrectly while multi-tasking and talking on the phone at the time. I'm glad you were able to notice that and correct my MONUMENTAL mistake and assert your awesomeness upon us all.

I am sorry that I have not replied regarding this yet Becky. It's a great thing raising money for a good cause, sadly internet is not allways friendly.

It was mentioned a before-date earlier, does this apply or is it possible to give a helping hand still? I don't have much since the military eating all my money, but some bucks I have and ready on Paypal.

Hear from ya

Quote from The Very End :

I am sorry that I have not replied regarding this yet Becky. It's a great thing raising money for a good cause, sadly internet is not allways friendly.

It was mentioned a before-date earlier, does this apply or is it possible to give a helping hand still? I don't have much since the military eating all my money, but some bucks I have and ready on Paypal.

Hear from ya

I offered to donate as well via PM, but no response

Quote from rediske :

Wait, you ask us to pay for every day you don't smoke anymore? What kind of bs is that? illepall

Isn't the extra cash and the no urge to cough again in the morning reward enough? (btw, I quit smoking in 2004)

No question about MS awareness/charity , that's a good thing! - but I don't get what it should have to do with a bad habit of yours...

She's doing a sponsored give up smoking. It's exactly the same as doing a sponsored walk/run/silence/dance/whatever

it's a bit like your boss sponsors you for every day you work for him

Quote from hyntty :

it's a bit like your boss sponsors you for every day you work for him

illepall

Quote from J@tko :

She's doing a sponsored give up smoking. It's exactly the same as doing a sponsored walk/run/silence/dance/whatever

Except we can't know for sure if she actually has given up smoking (or if she even has ever smoked) Basically we'd be giving her money because she says she didn't smoke.

Will you give me money if I promise to stop breathing? I'll tell you if I have breathed and if I keep on telling you I haven't breathed at all you'll give me money? I might even donate your money to some charity (which you obviously can't be certain of either) to get you give me more money.

She's just trying to scam you all. You can't be sure of anything she says. How do you know if she hasn't smoked and more importantly, WTF has not smoking got to do with MS? Why does the money need to go through her? If I donated five millions to MS she'd still be whining here how I haven't given anything to her since she won't know I donated already. She just wants your money to herself.

There's no reason why anyone should give her the money instead of giving it directly to the non-profit organization she ''supports''. If you want to support MS it's fine, but for the love of god don't give the money to her.

I have known Becky for some time, and I don't think she is the type that would steal the money for herself, and she did post a direct link to where you could donate money directly to the organisation.

I think the reason why she did mention the days without smoke, is because of her friends she have lost, and aswell as a little motivation / push on herself to quit. It might be random too, I do not know, but I don't think she is trying to scam anyone.

Quote from Juzaa :

Except we can't know for sure if she actually has given up smoking (or if she even has ever smoked) Basically we'd be giving her money because she says she didn't smoke.

Will you give me money if I promise to stop breathing? I'll tell you if I have breathed and if I keep on telling you I haven't breathed at all you'll give me money? I might even donate your money to some charity (which you obviously can't be certain of either) to get you give me more money.

She's just trying to scam you all. You can't be sure of anything she says. How do you know if she hasn't smoked and more importantly, WTF has not smoking got to do with MS? Why does the money need to go through her? If I donated five millions to MS she'd still be whining here how I haven't given anything to her since she won't know I donated already. She just wants your money to herself.

There's no reason why anyone should give her the money instead of giving it directly to the non-profit organization she ''supports''. If you want to support MS it's fine, but for the love of god don't give the money to her.

You are quite possibly a bigger bellend than I am. I'm sure if you said "Hi Becky, I will donate £3 a day" or whatever and do it directly to MS she would be happy, since she said THAT YOU CAN DO THAT IN HER OP. It's just that no-one has said they've donated........Charitable folk these Fins.

Quote from The Very End :

I have known Becky for some time, and I don't think she is the type that would steal the money for herself, and she did post a direct link to where you could donate money directly to the organisation.

I think the reason why she did mention the days without smoke, is because of her friends she have lost, and aswell as a little motivation / push on herself to quit. It might be random too, I do not know, but I don't think she is trying to scam anyone.

If so why did she start whining how no one from LFS community had given any money through her? Why didn't she just post the link and say for example that we should donate there money if she can quit smoking? Why is there even a possibility to give the money through her?

This trust you have for some stranger in the Internet is just ridiculous. So far I haven't seen any proof about her giving money to MS or her not smoking. You are all counting on her word. There are few Nigerian princes you might want to get acquainted with if you support Becky. If you ask really nicely they might have even played LFS at some point.

Come on, If this same thread was done by a demo racer who had no racing experience or posts anywhere else this thread would've been locked and destroyed in about 30 minutes. And yet to 99% of us Becky is most likely as much a stranger as a random Nigerian who's post would've been destroyed in 30 min.

Having met Becky in RL I can confirm she is not a Nigerian.

Quote from Juzaa :

If so why did she start whining how no one from LFS community had given any money through her? Why didn't she just post the link and say for example that we should donate there money if she can quit smoking? Why is there even a possibility to give the money through her?

This trust you have for some stranger in the Internet is just ridiculous. So far I haven't seen any proof about her giving money to MS or her not smoking. You are all counting on her word. There are few Nigerian princes you might want to get acquainted with if you support Becky. If you ask really nicely they might have even played LFS at some point.

Come on, If this same thread was done by a demo racer who had no racing experience or posts anywhere else this thread would've been locked and destroyed in about 30 minutes. And yet to 99% of us Becky is most likely as much a stranger as a random Nigerian who's post would've been destroyed in 30 min.

Having meet Becky at several occasions in real life, I have get to know her a little. Becky is a handfull, like you and me, specially me lol, but she is kind. I trust her because of what she says and does, and because she has life experiences that many might not have.

Either way, I know it's a gamble, and that we just have her word, but as someone more elegant said it, it's a "leap of faith" .. or something like that.

Maybe I am a little naive, but I'll take my chances on this one

Quote from s14 drift :

you are quite possibly a bigger bellend than i am. I'm sure if you said "hi becky, i will donate £3 a day" or whatever and do it directly to ms she would be happy, since she said that you can do that in her op. It's just that no-one has said they've donated........charitable folk these fins.

+100000.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

Having met Becky in RL I can confirm she is not a Nigerian.

Ah but can you confirm the shaven haven

Quote from sil3ntwar :

Ah but can you confirm the shaven haven

of course he cant, but the facts are plain for themselves: I dont do dental floss with a wire brush and wouldn't wish it on anyone else.

Regards me being Nigerian, you could of course make a direct donation - I said that in my original post. It looks like their form takes card payments rather than paypal or bank transfers. I'm not sure if the direct link works so i'll provide a site link too.

My week was sucessful, whether I stay off them well that is another matter.

Direct Link to Donation Form: https://www.secure-server.co.uk/forms/SS0666.cfm

Link to MS Trust (Donation is green blob in top right): http://www.mstrust.org.uk/

As for all the ****s in this thread, I hope you get buggered real soon - and if it's my big black royal nigerian cock doing the buggering then that's all for the better as far as i'm concerned.

Quote from Becky Rose :

of course he cant, but the facts are plain for themselves: I dont do dental floss with a wire brush and wouldn't wish it on anyone else.

As for all the ****s in this thread, I hope you get buggered real soon - and if it's my big black royal nigerian cock doing the buggering then that's all for the better as far as i'm concerned.

Quote from rockclan :

I offered to donate as well via PM, but no response

Sorry I use this forum on my phone a lot, and havnt checked in much since the thread went downhill at terminal velocity. There are links now.

The motivation of raising money for such a good cause has kept me going this last week, but LFS forum on the whole made me a bit more pissed off.

What happened to this once great community?

This isn't my first charity project in LFS, nor is it my first to raise money for MS Trust. I have given so much into this community over the years but this last week has made me question whether I even want to carry on doing the vouchers and puts developing anything new for LFS even further out of my consideration.

This was a good and worthy cause, and in no way was it deserving of the reaction it got.

Quote from Becky Rose :

As for all the ****s in this thread, I hope you get buggered real soon - and if it's my big black royal nigerian cock doing the buggering then that's all for the better as far as i'm concerned.

Fair play to you. Best of luck with everything.

I have to agree, this "community" has gone really downhill. I'm including myself in that (this thread being an exception) but now it's just where great e-penises clash.

Did you know, Miri Ziv, the head of the Israel Cancer Association earns a bit more than $130,000US per month.

Did you know, Mordechai Lieberman, the head of the Society for the Protection of Nature in Israel earns a bit more than $100,000US per month.

Did you know, Arie Carmon, the head of the Israel Democracy Institue earns a bit more than $350,000US per month.

Did you know, Shimon Tzurielo, the head of the Israel Foundation for Handicapped Children earns a bit more than $110,000US per month.


tl;dr:
All these people (and their workers) earn their salary and their pension and benefits from the taxes that I pay. These are the same people who claim to collect donations and help the poor/in need.
This is just an example from my country but you can imagine it's pretty much the same where you're at.

This isn't the RSPB, MS Trust has never appeared on our list of high earning charity CEO's. It started out as two science guys staying on after work to use work equipment to try and find a cure.

I'm pissed off with people telling me they're corrupt by citing other corrupt charities. MS Trust is not the Red Cross, I am not personally aware of any article of published data showing unreasonable staff bonus'.

If you must know my family got ripped off for £20k on a commercial property lease by a charity, if anyone is suspiscious of the kind of people who create charities then it's me.

RSPB being the Royal Society for the Prevention of Birds. Bloody pidgeons.

Quote from JPeace :

I would suggest you hug yourself to get to sleep at night, but you do that already.

I spoon my girlfriend at night.
Something you don't get to experience

Quote from Klutch :

I spoon my girlfriend at night.
Something you don't get to experience

is that after you've eaten all the ice cream?