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youre vastly exaggerating there
ive had windows run for 2 years+ without any real cruft issues
Quote from Shotglass :youre vastly exaggerating there
ive had windows run for 2 years+ without any real cruft issues

No I'm not and no you haven't. You just haven't noticed how much slower it is because it's been degrading over such a long period of time.
ive noticed exactly how much its slowed down because i usually did format after 2 ish years
the main source of cruft for me has been firefox and its ridiculously slow database
the best solution for those 2 thus far has been an ssd and windows 7s rather agressive preloading of programs
Quote from thisnameistaken :No I'm not and no you haven't. You just haven't noticed how much slower it is because it's been degrading over such a long period of time.

It's "degrading" only if you're going it wrong (e.g. disabling built-in disk defragmenter, installing shitty "tune up" apps, "cleaning" registry or doing any other dumb stuff). Otherwise it's not.
My install is from 2009 and it's still as fast as it was.
Quote from Shotglass :ive noticed exactly how much its slowed down because i usually did format after 2 ish years

I want an OS where I don't have to wipe the disk and start again every two years.

Quote from E.Reiljans :It's "degrading" only if you're going it wrong

I've been using Windows since 1993, please don't lecture me. I have a dedicated system partition, I have another partition for the user shell folders, and a third for apps and data, I defrag regularly, I don't install anything I don't need, I don't surf porn sites or download pirated software. I doubt anybody has a cleaner Windows box than I do, it's the OS that is shit.
Quote from thisnameistaken :I want an OS where I don't have to wipe the disk and start again every two years.

where did i ever say i was forced to reinstall every 2 years?
Quote from thisnameistaken :I doubt anybody has a cleaner Windows box than I do

Nope, mine is cleaner, cause it runs exactly same as a new install (I have a dual-boot second install, which is ~1 month old) and I don't claim OS is shit cause it's clearly your hands that are a problem.
also for the record i just checked up on the size of my oh so crufty registry and it sums up to about 50-60mb
might have been a problem 10 years ago but my current machine has 4 gigs of ram so who gives a crap about that?
Quote from Shotglass :where did i ever say i was forced to reinstall every 2 years?

There seems to be an implication here, unless you just get sick of your data every 2 years and decide to start again:

Quote from Shotglass :ive noticed exactly how much its slowed down because i usually did format after 2 ish years

As for the registry, I'm not even sure it is the registry that causes Windows to bog down. Certainly it's a bad design decision and it will have some impact on performance but I would be surprised if that's the whole story.
Quote from thisnameistaken :that causes Windows to bog down.

What are you doing with your OS if that happens, is a better question. Stop blaming the OS.
Windows registry is very messy. 3 weeks after installing windows 7 on my home PC, onto a new, empty TB HD, I ran CCleaner and it removed 1.8g of stuff. i hadn't even installed many programs.....
Quote from S14 DRIFT :Windows registry is very messy. 3 weeks after installing windows 7 on my home PC, onto a new, empty TB HD, I ran CCleaner and it removed 1.8g of stuff. i hadn't even installed many programs.....

Did it remove 1,8GB of files or 1,8GB of registry entries? I hope the first one. I've never heard of something like that...
#38 - Jakg
You wont have accrued 1.8GB of registry files... ever.
Quote from Bose321 :Did it remove 1,8GB of files or 1,8GB of registry entries? I hope the first one. I've never heard of something like that...

About 400mb was registry stuff, a large chunk were temporary internet files despite clearing my internet cache and all that stuff regularly.

I'll run it on my old HD which I didn't do naff all on.
#40 - Jakg
Quote from S14 DRIFT :About 400mb was registry stuff...

On a 3 week old OS?

My *entire* registry on my laptop is <350 MB, and that OS is a year+ old.

Plus, CCleaner doesn't actually tell you the size of the registry entries it removes.
Quote from S14 DRIFT :...were temporary internet files despite clearing my internet cache and all that stuff regularly.

Temporary internet files aren't really the fault of the OS...
You can filter on CC cleaner the entries and it will break it down by size.

Well, if you click "clear temporary internet files" and the OS misses half of them, then it is their fault.
#42 - Jakg
Quote from S14 DRIFT :
Well, if you click "clear temporary internet files" and the OS misses half of them, then it is their fault.

If a BROWSER (a separate program!) doesn't manage it's cache properly... how is that the OS' fault?
Quote from S14 DRIFT :You can filter on CC cleaner the entries and it will break it down by size.

Yes, but in "Cleaner" mode it doesn't touch the registry, only files. CCleaner has a "Registry" mode, but that doesn't show the size of files.
In internet explorer, MS's own browser. I call that MS fault.
Quote from Jakg :If a BROWSER (a separate program!) doesn't manage it's cache properly... how is that the OS' fault?

Quote from S14 DRIFT :In internet explorer, MS's own browser. I call that MS fault.

You're missing the point. It's not the fault of Windows, it's the fault of IE. Doesn't matter they're both from MS.
Quote from thisnameistaken :There seems to be an implication here, unless you just get sick of your data every 2 years and decide to start again:

who the heck keeps his data on c anyway?
either way it did usual coincide with major changes like installing versions with the most recent service packs integrated into the install cd or switching graphics cards from nvidia to ati
stuff that warrants an os reinstall without being related to cruft

Quote :As for the registry, I'm not even sure it is the registry that causes Windows to bog down. Certainly it's a bad design decision and it will have some impact on performance but I would be surprised if that's the whole story.

well have you ever had a look in /etc and /lib on any version of linux or unix? just as messy
its not like its actually possible to have a database of everything going inside a modern os without it getting hideously complicated
Quote from Jakg :If a BROWSER (a separate program!) doesn't manage it's cache properly... how is that the OS' fault?
Yes, but in "Cleaner" mode it doesn't touch the registry, only files. CCleaner has a "Registry" mode, but that doesn't show the size of files.

ps backing up the registry before removing and then comparing sizes. the difference in the sizes..

someone mentioned fish cakes how about poo cakes? weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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