At least it's slightly funny , unlike this political correct nonesense lately.

Quote from S14 DRIFT :

It was in the metro so it must be true.

And if I call a chav a Pikey, it's not racist. So my point stands. Difference is with the blacks and the gypsies is that most of the black people wanted to work and have a better life, where as most of the gypsies want free living and something for nothing.

OK here it is on the BBC as well http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7446274.stm

Quote from BBC :

But in more recent years it has become a term of abuse and in the eyes of the law using it can even be deemed a racist offence, given its association with Irish travellers and Roma Gypsies.

You don't know any gypsies so how would you know 'most' are lazy want something for nothing? You are taking a false stereotype and applying it to an entire group of people. Whether you think it is or it isn't, that's racism.

Quote from Dictionary :

rac·ism/ˈrāˌsizəm/
Noun:
The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as...

The attitude towards gypsies your showing is exactly the same attitude towards blacks people 30+ years ago - lazy, stupid, thieving, and out for something for nothing.

It doesn't surprise me, the whole the UK is stuck in the ignorant past.

Quote from Intrepid :

Let's see how long before that racist picture is removed.... I won't hold my breath!

Seems ebay don't have the same view as you......

http://tinyurl.com/3n95yeo

SD.

Pikey just means you're a bit tight fisted, nobody really uses it to cause offense where I'm from. It's all about intent, if the intention is to be funny then I don't see the problem.

Quote from ATC Quicksilver :

Pikey just means you're a bit tight fisted, nobody really uses it to cause offense where I'm from. It's all about intent, if the intention is to be funny then I don't see the problem.

The intent in that picture is to suggest that 'pikeys' steals things. It's flatout racist. 30 years ago people thought p*ki was harmless as well as n*gro and n*gger. If that said 'N*gro - Just Steal it' it would have been removed immediately regardless of intent. I don't think a kid who regularly gets bullied because of being a gypsy would see the funny side of that little sticker. Grow up ffs!

Because the gypsy community is so hidden (because of the insane amount of prejudice) people haven't had the opportunity to actually understand what they are saying or how they making people feel. Throughout history gypsies have been vilified above and beyond practically every other culture or race. They have suffered slavery, butchery, and general hatred. Pikey is no different to any other racial slur. Don't give me this bullshit about it means something different where you're from because you wouldn't say that about any other racist term.

Time people pulled their head out of their arse.

Feels oddly like a 1970s voxpox of Britain with the "the minstrels are harmless" brigade. eery.

enough of chit-chat pikeys, back to the pictures!

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Circular sticker at the top is the most important in THAT picture.

I agree with this

Jeez mate, its a sticker for christ sake, I cannot see how you can defend them, how can you defend the fact that they rip off innocent citezens, by carrying out sub par building work and charging a premium, Then dumping they rubbish for someone else to collect? (usually done by the local council which us tax payers fund)

how can you defend them when they occupy land, which they do not own and make the land owners life a misery, when they do eventually leave they leave mess and chaos?

Why should they be let off paying tax? they use the NHS when there idiot son falls off a stolen motocross bike without wearing a helmet? They us the roads like everyone else? why dont they pay road tax?

How can you defend a 'race' (haha) that is renound for theft? Not petty theft, Were usually talking Plant machinary, that someone has paid for with hard earned money,

They lie, They steal, They ruin lifes of so many people, they think they are always innocent, THERE IS NO SMOKE WITHOUT FIRE

Dont say I dont know the crack, Im a son of 35yr serving police officer, who has seen all of this first hand,

rant over

Quote from Intrepid :

I suppose you've witnessed the effect of racial abuse towards gypsies have you? You're integrated into the community and obviously have a full understanding of the quite bizarre and frankly disgusting attitude they face from general society? No? Thought not!

It's like we've gone back in the time to the 70s when it was OK to have the minstrels on TV, and negro an accepted term of black people. And no one in the last thirty years has ever used 'p*ki' to merely describe someone from pakistan, that's complete and utter nonsense. The term pikey is a racial slur against gypsies, full stop. Not just another word for 'chav'. don't be so naive.

I am ALL for freedom of speech. I don't think there should be any laws against it. However I find the hypocrisy appalling from the moderators on this forum. They think pikey is an acceptable and humorous term, yet n*gger is not?

Gypsies have had to cope with the same, if not worse brutality throughout history than any racial group, including hundreds of thousands slaughtered in concentration camps during WWII & having slavery imposed on Roma gypsies as well as ethnic cleansing and general hatred towards them. there is example after example of brutality towards gyspy people through history.

but yh, it still appears ok to use the term pikey. It's so funny celebrating the historical and current hatred towards gypsies. HHmm.. the reason 90% think it's funny is because they are stupid.

Don't stick up for gypsies, you clearly know NOTHING about them.

They spit everywhere, root through bins and beat their children. They are scum and criminals. No exceptions. You obviously live in an upper-class area/situation because you clearly have no experience of gypsies in the UK.


Every gypsy I've encountered has been an obnoxious twat, I had a knife held to my throat by an 'Irish Gypsy' they also killed a 4 year old child in my hometown. In Bradford (where I live now) the kids [romany gypsies] shoot footballs and BB guns at peoples windows in an attempt to break them, they spit everywhere and also every two minutes, they set fireworks off at people, and me when I was pushing my son in his pushchair and destroy walls, bins, cars, trees, anything they can touch.


So really, stfu defending them in an attempt to be neo-liberal. Most people for freedom don't know what having no freedom is like. Can't leave my house for long periods of time or my windows will get smashed and I'll get done for all I'm worth. Oh yea, but give gyppos the benefit of the doubt, they're not 'ALL' bad. RIGHT?

I just gave (whether you believe it or not) multiple examples of true events that occured to me, via two different kinds of gypsy.

If there's anything gypsies need, it's persecuting and shooting. Needs to happen soon before I kill one of them for kicking a football at my 1.5 year old son. (again)


Being a gypsy is a choice, it's not a race or religion. They don't conform because they can't. They are socially obnoxious and awkward as hell. They surf on the money of the state or that of others hard earned money as they steal if they don't get money from the government.

Open your eyes Al, it ISN'T a false stereotype.

There are two types of stereotyping, one that is false and has just stuck over the years as some kind of joke. Then there is the one that sticks because it is true.

Shit got serious.

I'm with blueflame here. Gypsies can go **** themselves. Nothing but a huge pain in the ass. And you are not the only one being threatened with knife by them.

Quote from TamelCoe :

I'm with blueflame here. Gypsies can go **** themselves. Nothing but a huge pain in the ass. And you are not the only one being threatened with knife by them.

Cementing the stereotype.

Quote from DejaVu :

Unfortunately, it only goes to -20...

Quote from Intrepid :

Pikey is no different to any other racial slur. Don't give me this bullshit about it means something different where you're from because you wouldn't say that about any other racist term.

Language evolves, I think your comment is slightly retarded, and to suggest I wouldn't use other racist or offensive terms in the way I use pikey is a little bit gay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cycXuYzmzNg

Quote from matijapkc :

Unfortunately, it only goes to -20...

From the ripple of arrow, I would guess it tries to do -9001 but cannot due to hard limiter.

that would be such an awesome prank!^^

Quote from ACCAkut :

By the way, after he screwed that fan, it blew him all night. Just wanted to let you know.

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two pages back

Quote from Ghostelites :

i like stereotypes

Quote from BlueFlame :

me too

Just because all you ever saw and experienced was negative, doesn't mean you should think of a whole race/group as "they are all the same". That is what causes stereotypes and helps them survive.

Ghostelites, i hope you don't take this personal, but the reason in your case is probably your dad working as a police officer and telling you all the bad things he does experience. Do you think they would call him to arrest the few good ones out there? No wonder he sees only the negative.

I have a perfect example for this from a friend at work...

His brother works as a police officer and has to deal with a lot of illegal immigrants. There's a house in the town where his station is located, known to be full of african-american immigrants and they always make problems (drug dealing, stealing, etc). He's the one who has to deal with them on a daily basis.

There is many african-american people living in this country who live honest lives, have real jobs and work for their money, never do anything against the law, etc. Yet, the brother of my friend doesn't see this anymore... all he can see is the dudes he has to go and arrest/lecture every day because of crimes they commit. So that's all he's telling his brother about too.

As a result of this, my friend is one of the biggest racists towards african-american people i know. After all, all they do is deal drugs and steal things, right?

Just because something is true for an area, district, town, whatever... you can't apply it to a whole race/group and doom them all.

Guess why you have so many bad gypsies in your country? Because they treat them ****ing nicely! So why not go there and profit from the situation? This is the same all over the world... easy profit and easy laws will attract bad people and criminals more than honest and righteous people. So what you get is mostly criminals and ****s.

We have certain races here in switzerland who are regarded as criminals too by the majority of swiss people. Same problem, they have it too easy to come here and have a nice life as a criminal. So that's all we see. What we don't see is the few good ones who come here too, and the many good ones that never come here and try to live a good and honest life in their own countries, or somewhere else where comitting crimes is not the most easy and comfortable way to make quick profit (and therefor a huge attraction to all people seeing this as an option in their lives... and you'll find people like that in all races).

Sorry to further derail this topic. But you two are perfect examples of not looking further than your eyes can see. You are the people who help stereotypes exist in our world... thank you very much, and have a good day!

EDIT: And if there's some real bad crime here where some guy goes bonkers and starts shooting at people, it's usually a swiss guy. Or when i have a small problem at home, need a new fuse or light bulp for the appartment, forget my clothes in the washing machine for a day... it's not a swiss person living in the same house who will help me out with a spare fuse or hang up my clothes to dry... it's the family coming from the country that everybody labels as "criminals that are here only to steal and profit from our rich country". But yeah, those are so easy to forget when they only represent 0.5% of their race in this country.

so...it means they dont?

Quote from BlueFlame :

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Funny that, people said exactly the same about black people in the 50s/60s/70s.

Quote from Intrepid :

It's no different than a white man calling his white friend a n*gger for being a lazy layabout. Oh, the meaning has changed... BOLLOCKS.

Haha, then probably almost everyone in my country are probably the biggest racists in your eyes, because if someone is greedy in some way, for example:
1st guy: can you give me your car, I need it for 1 day
2nd guy: no
1st: why you are so jewish?

A lot of people uses this expression here, I know a guy who is half-jew and he just laughts about that.