I have been racing now for a few months, and am getting quicker and just getting the hang of creating a useful setup (I generally as a rule don't like asking for peoples setups on servers, I feel I should work it out myself). I drive the FOX most of the time and I know that I'm losing time through the faster corners, the car just is not stable enough to take the corners at a high enough speed.

For example, in the FOX I can achieve lap times in the mid to low 42 sec on South city sprint, and 1:02.3 on AS Club, and looking at replays of fast laps, it is the S bends on these tracks where I lose my time.

I need advice on how to keep the car stable enough at high speed and create enough grip to take these corners a little faster, and then maybe I can break these times.

I have read all the setup guides, but am finding it hard to translate onto the track.

Any advise??????

In real world Physics (Very applicable within LFS) Speed through corners is gained by downforce. But then increase down force too much and you loose straight line speed. But if you keep the speed throught the bendy stuff then you'll have a faster exit speed and you might be able to maintain a faster straight speed with just a few clicks more of downforce.

Oh, the quandries life throes at us.

Also have a look at tyre camber. By pushing the bottom of the tyre out then you allow yourself more lateral force before the tyre looses grip. This could allow you a faster speed throught the 'S's. I wasn't much of a open wheeler so I don't have a definative answer. Just processes that I would use.

Maybe also, your tyre pressure might be a bit on the high side. Too high and you loose mechanical grip, too low and you loose straight line speed.

Do you have and over steer or understeer going through the S's. You might find you can tailor the suspension somewhat to give you the right amount of both to get you through.

And finally but by no means least. Practice. Watch some of the leaders lines through any problem areas you have. You might actually find that some of them are actually slower into a complex than you are, but due to that they can hold a line and power out with a much greater speed defferential. But that also might be a setup issue.

My utmost respect for doing the Setups the fun way instead of 'cheating'. But sometimes you just gotta ask someone. Get to know a fast guy and just ask some advice. Explain you prefer to do it the hard way and make your own sets (A far more satisfactory method. Plus you learn so much that you can take that knowledge to any track/car combo)He may well send you his setup but use it for reference. Adjust a few things that you feel have promise or that you just hadn't thought of and take it from there.

Happy racing. Let's get those PB's dropping . .

Good advice Mr Bear. I'll get out there and give some of those ideas a try. My main problem on south city is the bumps as I go through the S bends, maybe if I loosen the suspension and the rebound thingymajig that will help.

Thanks again Mr Bear.

South City is very bumpy. I managed to trounce my PB's there in my FZR just by loosening the suspension.

If you set it too stiff if bounces of the end stops and makes the car go nuts. I think you can see if you are bottoming out the suspension by f10'ing it and watching the suspension ratings. If you get alot of red (It's been a while. But I'm in the general ball park) then your bouncing the end stops.

Just play around with stuff mate. It'll be frustrating but eventually you will find something that works. I tried to think logically through problems but the bumpiness of teh track eluded me for so long because I'd forgotten just how in depth LFS was. You just can't take LFS for granted (Which is a good thing).

As has been said before more negative camber, lower tire pressures and more wing will help.

I think by the sounds of the car being unstable the suspension may well be too stiff try softening it slightly and increasing the ride height as well.