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0 is a nice age to start sportscars racing, there is plenty of opportunities: FIA GT, LMS, DTM or at least WTCC.

In none of these series you can make multiple millions a year. In NASCAR you can.

Quote from J.B. :

For the same reasons that other people look for new jobs. I think it's quite obvious that he simply doesn't want to be in F1 any longer. He's fed up. It's not that the drives he could get are not good enough, it's not that he feels he is not good enough himself, it's just that he isn't enjoying being in F1. He is a proper racer and current F1 just doesn't offer what he is looking for. The cars are boring, overtaking is almost impossible, regularly trying to overtake will just get you into trouble with fellow racers, press, fans and team bosses.

To me Montoya leaving should be seen as a big wake up call for F1 rather than simply the retirement of a failed driver. I agree that Montoya is not on the level of Kimi, MS and Alonso in terms of consistancy and intelligence but if a racer like him can't find a place in F1 then something is wrong with F1. The fans have been saying for years that F1 is crap. I feel that Montoya is the first driver to seriously come to the same conclusion.

I totally agree. As I stated earlier, the little entertainment that he brought to F1 has now gone and I have to sit and watch Alonso hot lap on his own for an hour and a half. Brilliant, I'd rather watch paint dry myself.

Maybe it's the rules, maybe it's the regulations or maybe it's the fact that T.V bosses hardly ever show anything other than replays of the scraps that happen lower down the field. I want to see the the action live. I tell you one thing, if it doesn't improve F1 will have one less viewer pretty sharpish.

JUAN PABLO MONTOYA

Grand Prix Debut 2001 Australian GP
Grand Prix Starts 95
Grand Prix Points 307
Grand Prix Wins 7
Pole Positions 13
Fastest Laps 12
Number of Finishes 60
Number of Podiums 30
Number of Finishes in Points 56
Number of Doubles 1
Number of Triples 1

KIMI RAIKKONEN

Grand Prix Debut 2001 Australian GP
Grand Prix Starts 97
Grand Prix Points 320
Grand Prix Wins 9
Pole Positions 8
Fastest Laps 18
Number of Finishes 63
Number of Podiums 34
Number of Finishes in Points 53
Number of Doubles 3

Very even.

Where are stats for "Number of times crashed team mate".

But you must remember that Kimi raced the first season with Sauber, while Montoya at the same time was in one of the best teams

Two stats are missiong too:

Number of possible wins, but sth ... :hbomb:
Number of lost Championships, cuz of above

Quote from th84 :

Great, lets turn it into a flame america thread instead.illepall

Do you mean USA?. America is a continent where you can find some countries like Colombia, Brasil, Panama, Canada, USA, Argentina...

I like Nascar in games like Papyrus Nascar, but not in TV. I don't like also the F1, because it's boring, not many passes in a race, pilots are like robots.

I like GT, motorbikes, Formula Indy, WRC... much more spectacular.
F1 is a tech show.

You know, NASCAR is mostly boring (cars have the best graphics tho )
and F-1... F-1 is as about as exciting as watching paint dry (I still think it's fake)... maybe we should turn this into a "Flame America Thread" just for an exciting change of pace..........

Ok seriously, To be honest, I think drivers ought to be encouraged to switch types of racing from time to time.
It would make things a little more interesting all the way around. After the racers race each other every race season for years, they get routines down. It becomes the same old stock car race or the same ol F-1
The racing just sorta goes into a rut. But if they sorta bounced around a bit
it might be good thing.

I dunno, just a thought.

For montoya Nascar is prolly his best move im sure hell be making more money then at williams and maybe hell have a chance at winning And montoya is good for nascar as im sure more columbians will watch to root him on. Montoya in nascar might actually get me to watch a race or two other then the road courses because Nascar as it is now is as borring as wathcing a cactus grow.

Quote from J.B. :

For the same reasons that other people look for new jobs. I think it's quite obvious that he simply doesn't want to be in F1 any longer. He's fed up. It's not that the drives he could get are not good enough, it's not that he feels he is not good enough himself, it's just that he isn't enjoying being in F1. He is a proper racer and current F1 just doesn't offer what he is looking for. The cars are boring, overtaking is almost impossible, regularly trying to overtake will just get you into trouble with fellow racers, press, fans and team bosses.

To me Montoya leaving should be seen as a big wake up call for F1 rather than simply the retirement of a failed driver. I agree that Montoya is not on the level of Kimi, MS and Alonso in terms of consistancy and intelligence but if a racer like him can't find a place in F1 then something is wrong with F1. The fans have been saying for years that F1 is crap. I feel that Montoya is the first driver to seriously come to the same conclusion.

You made some good points here. I think your point about Montoya leaving being a wake up call for F1 is spot on. Don't get me wrong, I am a big F1 fan and even in its current guise a love watching every race.

Though stock car racing is much different from open wheel, Motoya will have a good time. he is used to such type of races (many ovals and some roads) as he had experience in the past. His differnt aggressivity and technique will probably advantage him more in NASCAR than in F1.

Good luck to him.

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and "friendlier people too" Juans words not mine.

F1s half assed attempt at appearing as if their drivers are regular guys at Indy only made the reality of it more clear.

F1 is like Dyno racing with bots pluged into the cockpits.

Driver skill shows up most in class racing where cars are most equal.

As for the boring nascar ovals being easy ( Im sure Paul Tracy would agree) NOT!!.

When my country decides it wants something we go and earn (WIN) it!
IE. C6-7 Corvette , the GT-40 at Le Mans & the MOON

almost forgot the US gdp grew almost 20% in the last two years an amount that exceeds china or india's total gdp!

also our employment rate exceeds 96% even with 8 million illegals (that dont pay taxes)

Its capatalisim that stimulates tech growth so lay off our entertainment (NASCAR)

The GT-40 was actually a british car...

Juan Pablo Montoya Power!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/spani ... ewsid_7212000/7212326.stm

24 hours Daytona.

For the non Spanish speakers - http://www.crash.net/motorspor ... reates_rolex_history.html

I've never got why they need four drivers in Grand Am but only three at LM24 and pretty much everywhere else.