This might give you an idea of whats going on in the US at the moment.

The firsts a FOI release from the FBI about that terror hotspot, Iowa !

http://www.hongpong.com/archiv ... ion-pretend-rnc-terrorism



And this,
From the New York Times:

"The guidelines will lengthen to five years — from 180 days — the amount of time the center can retain private information about Americans when there is no suspicion that they are tied to terrorism, intelligence officials said. The guidelines are also expected to result in the center making more copies of entire databases and “data mining them” using complex algorithms to search for patterns that could indicate a threat." (emphasis ours)
http://www.infosecisland.com/b ... -Vast-Access-to-Info.html

You have so many agencies that need to justify their existence by finding 'terrorists' that its no wonder the US needs to create them.
http://www.fas.org/irp/official.html

You guys need to realise that 1984 was not an operating manual.

If some guy sitting in a basement in Lithuania can get and keep all of this information plus drain your bank account, why is it so surprising when the US government can get the same information? I'm really not too concerned about this. They're not interested in arresting people for attending political rallies and activism, they want to know who is willing to carry a bomb into an airport. When they find such a person and save hundreds of lives who is complaining then?

I think it's really vindicating when their "contact" turns out to be an FBI agent who gave them fake bombs. It's kind of like getting a guy to describe in detail how his girlfriend is in bed and he doesn't know she's standing right behind him.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article26954.htm

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=36240.0;wap2

http://www.911blogger.com/news ... ht-fbi-s-terrorism-stings

It sure is great to know just how hard your govt's working to keep you safe. They do seem to have learned to only give their terrorists fake bombs now, I had thought that giving them real ones did lead to a great deal of collateral damage in the past.

so the same people who think 9/11 was an inside job also think the Oklahoma City bombing was an inside job. It makes it convenient to mash together conspiracy theories into a more cohesive pile of bullshit.

One of the comments from the 'information clearing house' says that its all a plot by the Jewish Zionists that control the US. Who is becoming Nazi Germany, again?

I fully support an open enquiry into either based on the evidence that is in the public arena. After all, an open court would be the best way to get to the actual causes of both.

But who, I ask, refuses to have an open investigation into either ?

In my opinion there is no answer to either without an open investigation, which looks at all the evidence and can reach an independent decision based on the facts.

The 911 commission at least had the integrity to state that it's findings were false.

Yet again Racer X's 'HERPA DERPA SHEEPLES! THE JEWS DONE 9-11' completely bulldozers away any genuinely valid points that might have been made.

Interesting reaction ?

I had thought my post said that an OPEN investigation would be the best solution to determine what happened.

But, for those of you who believe the 911 commissions report, fine. Even though they have stated that their official findings are false why let that get in the way of your beliefs ..............

I feel that this 5 minuete video explains the official position perfectly, remember, this is what you believe !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98

Remember, "Ignorance is Strength"

Oh just shut up...........................

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Oh just shut up...........................

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uh I hit your profile link by mistake. Just outta curiousity, Do you own a bike?

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Interesting reaction ?

I had thought my post said that an OPEN investigation would be the best solution to determine what happened.

But, for those of you who believe the 911 commissions report, fine. Even though they have stated that their official findings are false why let that get in the way of your beliefs ..............

I feel that this 5 minuete video explains the official position perfectly, remember, this is what you believe !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98

Remember, "Ignorance is Strength"

Truther huh?
You always were into all that conspiracy theory stuff.

Where's the conspiracy ?

All this stuffs now your reality !

Four plus years ago, EVIL CONSPIRACY THEORY !!!!!!!!!!

CISPA, Megadownload, drones, fukushima, etc and so on are now an everyday reality.

War on Terror, the last underware bomber had to be let on the plane by their local CIA rep, this on just managed to carry out a covert operation on your own terror organisation.

And the fact that your TSA security irradiators can be fooled, old news. http://tsaoutofourpants.wordpr ... -tsas-nude-body-scanners/
Guess that means they get to grope everyone to keep you all safe from those terrorists.
http://bostonherald.com/news/o ... ectual_against_terrorists

Surely you guys can buy bombs on ebay ?
Do away with the pet terror groups, Gladio is still remembered.

Or maybe its only me that sees the ridiculous.................

And check the latest news on Kim.Com, I'll commit to an, ooops.........

This should be fun in court.

There is nothing wrong with asking questions. It gets a bit wrong though when you start inventing your own answers.

dotcom was arrested for making tens of millions of dollars distributing copyrighted material. There's an FBI warning before every US film that says you can be arrested for illegally distributing it, so why is it a surprise he's in jail?

Fukusima...I would love to hear who you think is secretly pulling the strings behind earthquakes.

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uh I hit your profile link by mistake. Just outta curiousity, Do you own a bike?

I did own a bike I sold it to buy the Golf SURPREME.

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dotcom was arrested for making tens of millions of dollars distributing copyrighted material. There's an FBI warning before every US film that says you can be arrested for illegally distributing it, so why is it a surprise he's in jail?

Fukusima...I would love to hear who you think is secretly pulling the strings behind earthquakes.

But if someone was only hosting links to other sites...
That's like the Yellow Pages being arrested for having adverts for "discreet massage"...
Like going "I don't sell drugs but I know dave down the road has them.."

Megaupload had a rewards program where members were paid to upload copyrighted movies and music. Child pron0graphy was removed quickly, but copyrighted movies and MP3s with millions of downloads somehow were not. The yellow pages doesn't pay hookers for servicing a certain amount of men, that's the major difference.

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The yellow pages doesn't pay hookers for servicing a certain amount of men, that's the major difference.

Yeah, but you also don't arrest local grocer just for selling food or some other reegular stuff to that hooker.

In this case I had some personal documents on Megaupload that had nothing to do with violation of copyright law and they were lost....
The problem about CISPA is giving too much right to do whatever they f***ing want and they are not known to be very delicate. This is the issue, not the fight to protect copyright material.