Dennis were you expecting noone to get angry?

Quote from Bmxtwins :

Dennis were you expecting noone to get angry?

The more important question is, if he cares.

@extrakid12

Ikke la deg skremme av elitismen og drittsekkeriet til disse folkene. Det er mange hyggelige mennesker du møter mens du kjører.

Welcome to the racing scene!

Bare ta kontakt om du lurer på noe. Gjerne skype ;-)
En video som kan sees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlk-_VTgZk8 :-)

Quote from PMD9409 :

The more important question is, if he cares.

ding ding ding.

Sure Rui is a nice guy, i can't possibly say he's the best racer in the world, he's not the worst either.

It's nothing personal, i just don't respect the whole name of LLM.

Quote from Skagen :

@extrakid12

Ikke la deg skremme av elitismen og drittsekkeriet til disse folkene. Det er mange hyggelige mennesker du møter mens du kjører.

Har allerede tvingt meg gjennom alle "elitene" i driftingscenen så er nokså kjent med det

Quote from Racon :

What? Why? That sounds more like advice for the ultra-competitive than advice for the keen-to-learn, IMHO

It's good advice. Otherwise you'll end up in some drift team or something.

I think some of you got the wrong impression on why i posted this.
Im not here to become the best, or be part of the best team.
I did this post just to get some guiding into what racing really is, and how i can improve myself.
Maybe a thread like this is unusual or something, i dont know, but i think you guys took this/me a little too serious.
I really appreciate many of your replies tho, there were alot of cool and helpful stuff
Don't take this like im giving up my racing "career" or something, i just wanted to say that ill improve myself in my own pase, and not rush anything, i have alot to learn and it will take time to master.

And as i stated earlier in this thread, im COMPLETELY fresh when it comes to racing, so ill try to go step by step.

I still appreciate all the help and tips you guys may give me in the future.

That's the spirit

This is too funny. Dennis turning the op's thread into an LLM hate thread when he didnt even ask about joining teams.

Quote from Dennis93 :

Who doesn't want to win?

Beginners with realistic expectations? People who aren't completely egocentric?

Maybe one of is confusing "want to" with "will cry and stomp my feet if I don't"...

Quote from BlueFlame :

It's good advice. Otherwise you'll end up in some drift team or something.

Yeah, I hate it when I can't tell the difference between a drift team and a race team. They should make it more obvious by having the drift team drift and the race team race or something.

Quote from Racon :

Beginners with realistic expectations? People who aren't completely egocentric?

Maybe one of is confusing "want to" with "will cry and stomp my feet if I don't"...


Yeah, I hate it when I can't tell the difference between a drift team and a race team. They should make it more obvious by having the drift team drift and the race team race or something.

My point was, if you're new you're not going to know which team is which. Or the team has no focus and switches between disciplines or even sims.

kid i think you need some seriousness to it to master it, since you said you want to master it. Mastering anything out there takes effort, constant effort. Now, because something is difficult and it takes effort and is at times serious, it doesn't mean it's not a joy. Perhaps, it's not a joy non-stop and to be frank with you, whilst racing the less emotion you have, the better off you are and you'll hear this from many great champions thru the years and something some of us have discovered thru the years that indeed has big effect.

Anyway, to get back to the point, you probably know from many videos and maybe you'll feel it yourself once you get it done, get it properly done and maybe even win something the explosion comes back to you and you realize all that effort was there for something. That is what racing is about. It's nothing like drifting where you just pull something off and feel good about it, it's about what you achieve as much as anything else. And you'll find that once you put a proper effort to it, that you you are suddenly driven to go for more because of unconstrained desire to improve.

It's almost as if it's a see that spreads over the horizon in every way where you not only are detainment to improve your driving, but the race craft and the whole approach to it only to find out that everything is connected again and that every time you see the limit it shatters before your eyes and drags you in deeper and deeper.

P.S. To give a very concrete advice. Start with RWD cars right away. They are more complicated to control and switching from them to FWD will always be easier than the other way around, plus if this wasn't true, best races and best fun is always in RWD cars.

Hey! Nothing wrong with front wheel drive NIKI! Although to be fair they like a tad of understeer (understatement)!

Me in my front wheel drive Mk2 XR2 the other weekend Took the championship leader out at abou 4m 50 or so

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKEsh-m_y8s&feature=plcp

I had never been on a track before March this year so don't lol too much :P

Anyway sorry to hijack thread, back on topic....Basically it comes down to simply lots and lots of practice. But practice online with others and race a lot. You'll meet friends onlineand get lots of help etc.

Enjoy. You will become hooked, reach mid-life crisis and buy a real race car like me I blame LFS for getting me into racing in the first place.

Quote from AlienT. :

Hey! Nothing wrong with front wheel drive NIKI!

No, no... I myself enjoy FWD occasionally as well, there is nothing wrong with it. Just for a new starter I'd say it's better to start with RWD, such as if you start in real life with karting and junior formulas they're all RWD as well. It doesn't matter that he'll make mistakes, what matters is that he will learn and getting on with FWD will be much easier for him if we starts with RWD as well as RWD will be much easier for him. We used to have a saying half a century ago in our country that Fićo, which was the most roughed car, who passes driving exam on that can drive anything, unlike today where you pass ur exam in all this fancy cars and once you've got a difficult car on your hands you're lost.

btw, Nice racing.

Quote from Bmxtwins :

This is too funny. Dennis turning the op's thread into an LLM hate thread when he didnt even ask about joining teams.

I never said anything bad about your team?

It's ONLY good for improving, not for being 'good'/'best'.

Thanks.

Quote from extrakid12 :

Maybe a thread like this is unusual or something, i dont know, but i think you guys took this/me a little too serious.

Don't worry, that's just a general trend with the LFS community... Many people taking everything so seriously

No need to join a team just for the sake of it, most teams are more about ego than racing.

Joining the wrong team can bring more distractions than benefits. I've been in 3 different short-living teams as a beginner, and overall it was a rather mixed experience, on one hand it allowed me to get to know some nice people, get started with endurance racing, and get some strong sets in the process, but on the other hand I didn't feel like it taught me anything new about the game or racing in general.

It's not that hard to just learn by yourself anyway, you can find many tutorials and replays online.

Plus you can still ask others for help, either on the forums or on online servers.

I'm often on cargame.nl S2 too, if you see me online feel free to ask me for sets or advices.

Quote from N I K I :

whilst racing the less emotion you have, the better off you are

True. And this can transfer to so many disciplines other than racing.

Quote from N I K I :

No, no... I myself enjoy FWD occasionally as well, there is nothing wrong with it. Just for a new starter I'd say it's better to start with RWD, such as if you start in real life with karting and junior formulas they're all RWD as well. It doesn't matter that he'll make mistakes, what matters is that he will learn and getting on with FWD will be much easier for him if we starts with RWD as well as RWD will be much easier for him. We used to have a saying half a century ago in our country that Fićo, which was the most roughed car, who passes driving exam on that can drive anything, unlike today where you pass ur exam in all this fancy cars and once you've got a difficult car on your hands you're lost.

btw, Nice racing.

I don't know if I agree with that. If you want to learn quickly, then it might be the best way, yea.

However, as a rule of thumb, I'd say that it's best to learn with whatever you're the most comfortable with. And in this case, for most beginners it's usually FWD.

Quote from GreyBull [CHA :

However, as a rule of thumb, I'd say that it's best to learn with whatever you're the most comfortable with. And in this case, for most beginners it's usually FWD.

Quote from Mario Andretti :

"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."

In other words, to be comfortable is not good.

That's something i learned from karting, if the setup feels right/good, its probably not.

Quote from Dennis93 :

I never said anything bad about your team?

It's ONLY good for improving, not for being 'good'/'best'.

Thanks.

For some reason you sound very self righteous. It's just funny because both of out cars beat your teams car in last gt2 round.

I'll delete the thread if you dont stop with this offtopic whining crap.

Quote from N I K I :

In other words, to be comfortable is not good.

What works best for Mario Andretti, does not necessary works best for average Joe club racer.

Quote from extrakid12 :

I'll delete the thread if you dont stop with this offtopic whining crap.

Sorry. You can't. At best you can ask the mods to close the thread.

Quote from Bmxtwins :

For some reason you sound very self righteous. It's just funny because both of out cars beat your teams car in last gt2 round.

Jesus, shut up! Such a kid sometimes.

Quote from Bmxtwins :

For some reason you sound very self righteous. It's just funny because both of out cars beat your teams car in last gt2 round.

stop talking

Quote from GreyBull [CHA] :

What works best for Mario Andretti, does not necessary works best for average Joe club racer.

You got that one right.