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2013 Chinese Grand Prix
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1) which team will score most points? Ferrari
2) will pole sitter win the race? No
3) who wins the race? Alonso
4) number of cars finish? 15
5) will williams score points? Yes (Bottas gets 1 point, Maltrolololo DNFs)
6) who gets the fastest lap? Hamilton
Bonus) first driver to finish lap down? Vergne
Any news what happened to Webber?
Oh good. Pages of tedious predictions to be replaced by pages of tedious conspiracy theories.

Anyway, going to be an interesting race. Can't see the top guys lasting too many laps but will they get enough of a gap to clear the midfield medium runners? Could be a Button / Vettel / Webber podium. Going by Melbourne, then you could make an argument for Kimi two stopping here, but Lotus will have last year in mind no doubt.
Yea Webber's car broke after all the Multi 21 fashizle. Call it a conspiracy but I've seen too many mechanical failures for 2nd drivers when they were supposed to raise and this is just one of those.

I'm glad I didn't wake up for that qualifying. Pirelli should have made qualifying tires to avoid situations like today a long time ago.

And yeah it is going to be very interesting race at the front, still top 3 runners don't have too much worry even if they do drop behind force india/sauber they have this DRS you know. It's not gonna be a Redbull day.

Actually I think we might withness great Hamilton/Alonso rivalry for once after a while. \o/
Webber sent to the back of the grid for only having 150ml of fuel in the car when it stopped, not enough to take a sample.

I guess they'll take a bit of wing off lengthen 7th gear and start from pitlane, but can't see him making the same impression as 2011. Even if he is flying then the marbles are going to cause problems for overtaking. Same applies to the Mercs when they pit on lap 4.
I'm ready... Let's get going.
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Oh Mark.
Bernie is gonna suggest trike-cars next year I'm sure.
Holy smokes... That was too close.

Good stuff from Alonso too.
Alonso
Raikkonen
Hamilton
Vettel
Button
Massa
Ricciardo
Di Resta
Grosjean
Hulkenburg
Perez
Vergne
Bottas
Maldonado
Bianchi
Pic
Chilton
van der Garde

Retired:
Rosberg
Webber
Sutil
Gutierrez
Yea, DRS made it really easy for all the strategies to play their thing. Good chess game, ops, race.

LOL@RBR failing wheel on Mark's car, just extends conspiracy theory plus Rosberg's car making him definite no2 for the season.
Ferrari, Lotus, Mercedes, RedBull, McLaren. That's how they stack up on a cold dry day. It's going to be very interesting to see how this plays in Bahrain, since most of the season is hot conditions anyway.

I'm surprised that Grosjean completely lost his mojo since he fixed the race starts... I mean he does say this and that about balance of car for him, but I don't see it. It's just evolution of last years car and in back end of last year he was poor after poor starts too. I still can find footage of Prost making careful start then getting on with it for example.

I'd much like to see Vergne sacked from Torro Rosso, like they did with whoever it was when they got Alguersuari a chance. Not only that he compromised race for sister car and himself, his form is nowhere ever since he is in F1, he's being completely dominated by Ricciardo.

Massa should find way to understand that his race form is not at Alonso's level and stop trying to match it, and rather instead work ways with Smedly how to catch it, step by step, like he did with quali and avoid embarrassments like being beaten by that utterly slow McLaren and being stuck behind di Shista for almost entire race.

Speaking of di Shista, I didn't see the first few laps, but I heard he was again in contact with teammate... just like last year in Abu Dhabi where he punted his teammate off and went onto finish race with no problem... Speaking of Scottish drivers, watched f1 2008 review and boy Coulthard had a crash almost every other race.

Hulkenberg outpacing Perez in inferior car, I liked that, definitely favorite driver on the grid.
I was surprised by Alonso's pace. Great stuff. Too bad Massa was lost... again... I'm glad finger didn't get P3 at the end.
Di Resta is overrated piece of manure who causes too much trouble + is a cry-me-a-river thing, should be sacked and put Bianchi in his place ASAP.
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I'd much like to see Vergne sacked from Torro Rosso, like they did with whoever it was when they got Alguersuari a chance. Not only that he compromised race for sister car and himself, his form is nowhere ever since he is in F1, he's being completely dominated by Ricciardo.

Webber had absolutely no chance for that overtake. If you look at the replay, at the turn-in of the corner, Webber had only just barely gotten his front wheels aligned with Vergne's rear wheels. Sister car or not, racing rules do always apply, and making a brain dead dive-bomb is just stupid.

It was an atrocious attempt at an overtake. Webber deserves the penalty.
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While all that you said is true, when you make a dive on a backmarker to put a lap on him, crash like this never happens and Torro Rosso's drivers are effectively instructed and expected to comply to that treatment.

So, while he is in no fault for the crash by racing rules, by common sense he is at fault if you understand this sister relationship between the two teams.

Anyway, even if this wasn't correct and if he let's say wasn't expected to let's put it nicely move out of RedBull's way it doesn't make up for all the poor results in past year or more's time.

I actually don't understand why Torro Rosso hasn't sacked him before the season and replaced with someone new from their drivers development programe, since it was quite obvious even during the last year he has no prospect over Ricciardo in RBR.
Quote from N I K I :While all that you said is true, when you make a dive on a backmarker to put a lap on him, crash like this never happens and Torro Rosso's drivers are effectively instructed and expected to comply to that treatment.

So, while he is in no fault for the crash by racing rules, by common sense he is at fault if you understand this sister relationship between the two teams.

Anyway, even if this wasn't correct and if he let's say wasn't expected to let's put it nicely move out of RedBull's way it doesn't make up for all the poor results in past year or more's time.

Politics aside (as they're irrelevant to this). Look at the situation. Webber came from about 2 corners back to try to make that pass and it was an awful move. Rightfully so he should be penalized for making a poor move and causing a crash
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Although this was overshadowed by the race infront, Ricciardos performance in the STR was insane outqualifies team mate by a second, then manages to catch up to to front runners in the last stint whilst doing an extra 8 or so laps on his tyres, also keep in mind he could of been fifth if it wasn't for a wing change in the first pitstop.
Quote :Red Bull’s Mark Webber will drop three places on the grid for next weekend’s 2013 Formula 1 Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix after stewards penalised him for his collision with Toro Rosso’s Jean-Eric Vergne in Sunday’s Shanghai race.

Source: formula1.com
Fair penalty for Webber. It can be easy to get sucked in looking at a driver taking a wide entry and it turned out looking like a half arsed attempt. Shame because he was bringing himself back into play, although he would have run longer on each set of mediums than the others.

Alonso was terrific. Showed up the difference between him and Massa. Felipe is quick and was showing his nose early on, but he drifted back from mid race whilst Alonso drove to the potential of the car and tyres lap after lap.

Will be a different order next week I think. Bahrain is rear limited so it will be much more a test of traction which could help Lotus, but the temperature will be another new factor.
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https://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=82544

Anyways, here's a separate thing for this thread:
1) which team will score most points?
2) will pole sitter win the race?
3) who wins the race?
4) number of cars finish?
5) will williams score points?
6) who gets the fastest lap?
Bonus) first driver to finish lap down?

You have time to post answer until the first practise session starts.

Correct answers:
1: Ferrari (33)
2: No
3: Alonso
4: 18 cars
5: No
6: Vettel
B: Bianchi
One has to wonder why did not RedBull elect to change wing/gearing settings to be more suitable for the race in China on Vettel's car. Especially, if we remember that changing setup is perfectly allowed during qualifying and that after he used his qualifying setup to do the work in Q1 and Q2 he had the entire Q3 session ahead of him to make setup changes.

He sat out Q3 saving the tires for the race to start from P9 with a qualifying setup as if he was on pole position to be stuck behind Hulkenberg in first stint and Perez in second stint... and we all know that RedBull goes like a bullet in traffic from Abu Dhabi if it's set to do so.

Quite obviously, had his pace not suffered this blow during the first two stints he could have had both Kimi and Lewis for dinner at the end of the race. Aka earning him 6 more points and from Malaysia we can see how important all that is to him.

So, has RedBull just missed out on this potential or changing gear rations is impossible to do in 10-15 minutes times for F1 car?
Takes a bit longer to change ratios and the rear wing, plus the other stuff to go with it. And I don't think they're allowed to either. Parc Ferme rules start at the beginning of Q1, so any changes = pitlane start.
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