I agree it's unlikely that even S3 will generate a sustained increase in interest, if/when it's released.

After all these years following LFS's development it's pretty clear that the Devs aren't all that concerned either way. They continue to work at their own pace and are willing to leave huge amounts of time between releases. Despite community sentiment and declining usage they don't seem to be taking steps to counter this.

While I find this little bit odd and even frustrating as an end user, I realise that their aims and goals might not be the same as what I'd expect them to be, and that in the end it's not my call what they do.

They really are the non conformist beatniks/hippies of the independent games development scene.

Regardless, I'll still follow LFS with interest.

You want races join a league they are still going I'm back after 7 years and when I fired it up I was thinking damn this feels good. Just mad I lost all my setups I made they should have a storage for setups on this site I know there is setupgrid and a few of my sets where still there thank god. Just wish more people drove LRF class its all about the RAC! That is interesting about AC having so many empty servers was thinking about buying that but I think I'll pass. I've heard of this setup stealing crap is that still going on? I'm spending like weeks running the fbm and it would be a shame to have someone pick my pocket.

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You want races join a league they are still going I'm back after 7 years and when I fired it up I was thinking damn this feels good. Just mad I lost all my setups I made they should have a storage for setups on this site I know there is setupgrid and a few of my sets where still there thank god. Just wish more people drove LRF class its all about the RAC! That is interesting about AC having so many empty servers was thinking about buying that but I think I'll pass. I've heard of this setup stealing crap is that still going on? I'm spending like weeks running the fbm and it would be a shame to have someone pick my pocket.

Blimey, there is a name from the past...hope all is good for you.

You are right it would be nice to have setup storage on LFS World...maybe pay a few quid for the privilege..

I can not comment if setup stealing still happens as I have not played for an age...but I would imagine so....there have been many forum topics about it over the years.

Anyway...no matter if someone had your set they would still have to drive like you...get out there and show um.

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Again...what is to be gained by preventing people stealing it when they will never buy it anyway....why spend anytime coding or whatever when that time could be spent on actual game improvements, as a paid member I do not care about what other people do...only what I can have.

a) demotivation
b) certainly people would buy LFS instead of cracking, not all.. But the current culture is like hhmm I can get it for free so do it for free. Cracked servers are even better occupied then legal servers. It's crazy!
c) If you take away some capabilities to host something completely on your own, beyond master control, then it's hackable but if not, again like Iracing, then it's not possible. You cannot hack an online bank too do you?

Without increased security I don't see much future for LFS and concerning programming time; some specialist can make work of that. Doesn't need to be done by one single person because thats too much work (probably).

Anyway, more content doesn't generate more people anymore, so much is obvious. So people asking for even more content at this point its quite useless thing to do.

Old S2 members didn't even try the new Westhill yet (yeah offline for three laps and it was great! => I don't believe those stories).

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Again...what is to be gained by preventing people stealing it when they will never buy it anyway....why spend anytime coding or whatever when that time could be spent on actual game improvements, as a paid member I do not care about what other people do...only what I can have.

a) demotivation
b) certainly people would buy LFS instead of cracking, not all.. But the current culture is like hhmm I can get it for free so do it for free. Cracked servers are even better occupied then legal servers. It's crazy!
c) If you take away some capabilities to host something completely on your own, beyond master control, then it's hackable but if not, again like Iracing, then it's not possible. You cannot hack an online bank too do you?

Without increased security I don't see much future for LFS and concerning programming time; some specialist can make work of that. Doesn't need to be done by one single person because thats too much work (probably).

Anyway, more content doesn't generate more people anymore, so much is obvious. So people asking for even more content at this point its quite useless thing to do.

Old S2 members didn't even try the new Westhill yet (yeah offline for three laps and it was great! => I don't believe those stories).

uhhh... I like the new Westhill. Still can't figure out why they made the gokart tracks though. Are there Go karts in the future or something?
But yeah, you're right... I didn't really start playing with it til a couple a days ago.

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Again...what is to be gained by preventing people stealing it when they will never buy it anyway....why spend anytime coding or whatever when that time could be spent on actual game improvements, as a paid member I do not care about what other people do...only what I can have.

a) demotivation
b) certainly people would buy LFS instead of cracking, not all.. But the current culture is like hhmm I can get it for free so do it for free. Cracked servers are even better occupied then legal servers. It's crazy!
c) If you take away some capabilities to host something completely on your own, beyond master control, then it's hackable but if not, again like Iracing, then it's not possible. You cannot hack an online bank too do you?

Without increased security I don't see much future for LFS and concerning programming time; some specialist can make work of that. Doesn't need to be done by one single person because thats too much work (probably).

Anyway, more content doesn't generate more people anymore, so much is obvious. So people asking for even more content at this point its quite useless thing to do.

Old S2 members didn't even try the new Westhill yet (yeah offline for three laps and it was great! => I don't believe those stories).

I can not be bothered to break it down...so will just block quote...

A- demotivation...for who? If the developers were concerned then I am sure they would take some action. It to me means nothing and before you say "yeye you dont play no more"...the cracking business has been going for many years...it did not bother me then or now.
B- the type of people who want LFS for free are also the type that find the other various cheats...clutch for example...(you might need more info. there but not on the main forum eh)...I would rather they were not playing alongside genuine people. (Also you have a real problem with your perception of society...but that is another matter).
C-No point at all to ask me how it works or how to fix PC matters....

As for adding extra people to deal with the crackers....wut?....you know exactly how the LFS team work...no?

As for extra content and the latest WE...I have not tried it...my wheel is defunct...I would need to invest money into a new wheel before returning...and I would need to be interested enough in LFS to justify the outlay....put Nordschleife into the map list and that new wheel will be eagerly awaited in the post.

Of course not to say that Nord. would be the only reason I would return...but I have driven more miles than you..my only reason for stopping playing was that I had driven every turn..soooooo many times...no complaint about different cars...just new scenery was needed...new WE is not enough for me (personally).

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You want races join a league they are still going I'm back after 7 years and when I fired it up I was thinking damn this feels good. Just mad I lost all my setups I made they should have a storage for setups on this site I know there is setupgrid and a few of my sets where still there thank god. Just wish more people drove LRF class its all about the RAC! That is interesting about AC having so many empty servers was thinking about buying that but I think I'll pass. I've heard of this setup stealing crap is that still going on? I'm spending like weeks running the fbm and it would be a shame to have someone pick my pocket.

Blimey, there is a name from the past...hope all is good for you.

You are right it would be nice to have setup storage on LFS World...maybe pay a few quid for the privilege..

I can not comment if setup stealing still happens as I have not played for an age...but I would imagine so....there have been many forum topics about it over the years.

Anyway...no matter if someone had your set they would still have to drive like you...get out there and show um.

Wassup Anthoop! Yes all is good hope its the same your way. Had to dust off the old wheel Logitech is pretty sturdy have this ole DFP for 8years now lol. Hopefully I'll see you when you do hit the track.

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I can not comment if setup stealing still happens as I have not played for an age...but I would imagine so....there have been many forum topics about it over the years.

I remember meekly asking those in-game to share a setup with me if it was a combination I didn't have one for....the fond memories of "anyone set please?"

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I can not comment if setup stealing still happens as I have not played for an age...but I would imagine so....there have been many forum topics about it over the years.

I remember meekly asking those in-game to share a setup with me if it was a combination I didn't have one for....the fond memories of "anyone set please?"

Yes...me too. "Sir" Nilex will confirm that...but even when I had his set it was useless with me...bah damn BL1 and XFG and mousers...pff.

How often the reply was "sorry team/private set" even if you got a reply when asking for a set though...times change