I once test-braked my lancia at 120kph with the intent to lock the wheels.
Afterwards, the flatspots that were created gave little pushes to my steering wheel. depending on the relative position of the two tyres, the pushes would be simultaneous or not.The tyres went flat in a week.
I want this simulated. A severe flatspot should be detectable.
I've never been convinced lfs does actually flatspot - it certainly heats up the tyres properly, but I don't think the tyres degrade under extreme conditions anywhere near enough. They just seem to get hot, and not wear down. Same goes for drifting.
What are you talking about, you can't feel the wheel shake or anything when you are driving like George suggested. I'd like to see this some day, it was discussed as a offtopic discussion in another thread, but yeah, it would be great.
gentlefoot, the 3rd gear's synch has gone because i was very angry (at something completely unrelated to my car) and just downshifted to 3rd from 4th without clutch and without any attempt at matching revs.
It's not stereotyping - its based on experience. I never shift without the clutch, I've had four Italian cars and the only one without 3rd gear syncro problems was an automatic!
as an italian as i am, let me say: don't buy italian car anymore! italian cars are pure crap everyone knows it (except ferrari, etc.)! italian car are also totally unsafe...if you drive one, you'll be scared at even low speeds...of course alfas are a bit better but for the cost you have to pay, it's a robbery!
if you don't look at the look, get a toyota or a mitsubishi, otherwise get a volkswagen/audi/bmw.
PS a hint: never drive a fiat on wet if you think your life is valuable...
don't buy french cars either, I don't know anybody (yet), who says their are good and reliable (especially the electrics). And I hate this soft wobbly suspensions of these
I love Italian cars. They have great styling, great engines that always rev and most handle pretty well. My Alfa has double wishbone front suspension and I have never driven a front wheel drive that gets close to the handling. I had a sud once and that thing handled brilliantly too.
You do have to put up with electronic problems and before they were all galvanised, rust problem too. Oh yeah and the odd bit of trim falling off but this all adds character. For me the engine and the suspension are the two most important areas and so I will always drive Italian cars.
I've had Beemers in the past and they are great, reliable, sometimes fast. When you open the window in the rain you don't get wet like in my Alfa. Everything is where it should be and works as it should and I'm totally bored!
Much more exciting to try and guess which bulb/fuse will pop next when you're in the Alfa
A short lock up only heats up the tyres, creating a hot spot. Lock the tyres long enough, or several times, and you'll get flat spots (or rather, worn spots), and can feel this when cornering.
I have the FF quite low which is probably why I don't feel it. I would like to though, so increasing the flatspot's feedback force would be just great.
I have to agree it's not severe enough. It's maybe alright for the road cars as they're not a stiff as the racing cars (well in theory), but i have to say netKar Pro had great Flat Spot feedback.
one of my hotlapping 'techniques' has been to lock the wheels to get them warm. This has never had a noticeable effect on cornering ability or lap times...
Although netkar flatspot feedback was good, i hope this type of effect doesnt get into lfs, atleast not as severe as in netkar. Looked like it was trying to demolish my wheel with that effect.
I have NEVER felt flatspots in LFS, would be nice to have them modelled for the FFB, aslong as they arent like Netkar, that game tried to tear my house down with its flatspot simulation.
You can feel a flat spot a bit when you produce a severe flatspot (100meters locked wheel, XFR at AS Club is a good track for that, watch right rear tyre) so that about a third of the tread is missing. Then, when carefully cornering, you can hear the tyre slip everytime the flatspot touches the ground and there's a slight change in FFB.
But the effect is obviously too low. Flatspotting works nicely, you can accidentally kill a tyre in three laps of AS Nat/FZ5 (Bozo did that once ), but the FFB doesn't notice anything about that.
XRT, brakes maxed out, i went in drag strip, went 200kph and smashed the brakes. skid for an eternity. force feedback at 200%
yes, i feel a little click on the wheel. feels more like the wheel is damaged than a proper FF though. could be my low quality momo racing. At least the comparison to my own car tells me this.
...compared to my ferrari enzo...