Hello,

I'm looking for a racing wheel with two progressive levers (for brake en gas) on the steering wheel.
Because I have a spinal cord injury ( paraplegic ) and so paralyzed with me means I can not drive a peddleset .

I now have a Thrustmaster RGTFroce feedback that do not work properly ( not centered anymore).
Are there any other racing wheels with two progressive levers on back off the steering wheel?

I'm not sure how your motor skills are, but a wheel like this: http://steelseries.com/us/products/other/simraceway-s1-steering-wheel might be a solution? Uses accelerometer to do steering rotation, but is the first "wheel" that pops into my head that supports an analog gas/brake paddle.

The website says it's unavailable, but I've seen it around (locally at least). It might be available from your local Amazon or other electronic retailer.

I've seen a few people around the LFS community with various spinal cord injuries. Hopefully one of them see this thread for their more educated input.

That simraceway wheel looks like it will get tiring to hold in the air for longer than a few minutes...
But hard to find other wheels with analog (progressive) controlls.

This looks bit strange at first but maybe worth a try.
It seems some people attach gamepads to their wheel to get more buttons, like so:

Just zipties and maybe some anti-slip rubber pad underneath. (like this http://www.amazon.de/Mape-Anti-Rutsch-Pad/dp/B001URESP0 )
Perhaps that also allows to use the gamepad's joysticks or analog shoulder buttons.
Would have to play around a bit to find the best positioning...maybe with velcro tape?

If you feel even more like tinkering around then maybe take the gamepad apart to only attach the parts you want.

Since you have to keep hands on the brake/throttle not so much wheel rotation could be used, so would probally work with cheaper cable-gamepad too.

It's funny you mention the G27... I recall someone actually mounting the simraceway wheel to the G27, using the G27 for the steering rotaiton and FFB, but the SimRaceway for the rest of the buttons. An expensive solution though unless you could find a G25/G27 that was just the wheel, no pedals + shifter

dawesdust_12 thanks for your message .
Nice wheel with lots of potential, but I still prefer a wheel that is attached to a base with focefeedback .

Gutholz thx for the post. But I do not see how I would give gas and brake.
If I have to control it with the PS3 controller (gas and brake)I think that is not easy

Maybe there is someone who can solve the problem of my current wheel(Thrustmaster RGT Froce feedback).
It centered not anymore, he is always a few degrees to the left, even after calibration. And change often during the race of a few degrees to much more.

A similar problem on G25/G27 is that the 'optical encoder' within the wheel becomes loose and rotates on the shaft instead of remaining fixed as the wheel turns.

There are a lot of videos showing the fix for this. You could open up your wheel and see if it seems to work in the same way.

Also, there is a used RGT on ebay for only £20 here.

Yes, gas/brake would be with the gamepad. Either via the analog-sticks (the little joystick things) or via the shoulderbuttons at the back. If I hold a gamepad in front of my wheel it looks like it might work, but no idea how useful it really is or how comfortable. If one is willing to take the gamepad apart then I could see it working...


Thrustmaster RGT Force feedback on ebay.nl:
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/Volant-Thrustmaster-RGT-Force-feedback-pro-complet-avec-pedales-PC-Playstation-/201254425022?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_23&hash=item2edbb2d1be

The problem with your wheel seems like the problems that can happen to any wheel:
potis/encoders coming loose or breaking in some way.
Here it is explained for logitech pedals but similiar principle in all controllers: http://web.axelero.hu/mozso/momo_e5.html


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I searched a bit through internet and found some things, so a random unsorted list follows:

Adapter to put the Simracewheel on a logitech base:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtNjBoWFBkI


http://www.zroso.com/index/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=48&Itemid=56
"Clutch paddles operate on separate axis and can be used for throttle and brake if you can't use pedals."
Note that this just the wheel itself. It is supposed to be used with a Logitech G25/G27 wheelbase or other. Looks good but very expensive..


Older similiar thread:
https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/4257-Who-knows-a-wheel-with-analog-levers%3F
mentions "ThrustMaster Enzo Force Feedback Wheel"

I found some postings mentioning that this one has analog paddles:
http://www.amazon.com/Racing-Force-Feedback-Pedals-Xbox-One/dp/B00GSJAQ9W
From the picture it does seem to have two extra paddles under the shifters, but could not find that in product description.

This forum: http://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-mac-discussion-1000004/steering-wheel-with-pedals-on-wheel-29306574/?page=1#js-message-338514866
mentions "the original Logitech Driving Force (not the Pro or GT versions; those have digital paddles)."
( http://www.amazon.de/Playstation-Driving-Force-Pro-Logitech/dp/B0001YNHPU/ref=sr_1_cc_6?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1420226355&sr=1-6-catcorr&keywords=Logitech+Driving+Force can not buy there anymore but has a picture)

"Logitech Wireless wheel" seems to definately have analog levelers.
But otherwise it seems a bit small and toy-ish. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA5rC4IAnD8 )

"Hand controls on xbox 360 racing wheel"
Found this interessting because it uses the handcontrolls of a real car:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIzKczvrjhM


Basically it seemed to me that the only wheels with analog paddles are eiter:
a) old ones, like your RGT-Force and not sold anymore
b) very expensive high-end stuff
c) something self-made
So maybe an idea to look at other ways instead of analog paddles.

Here someone steers basically with one arm. Maybe that is worth a try?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zczdaGbyTUw
Means you could use the non-steering hand to controll gas/brake in some other way...maybe with a joystick? Or again with a gamepad that you somehow fix to the table, because joystick has both gas/brake on same axis...

Wow thank you for all that info Gutholz.

I think I solved the problem with my wheel.
The 'optical encoder ' was loose.
I fastened it again, and that seems to have solved the problem.


But thanks again for all your information.

just an update.
I've found a new project for disabled people who want simrace.
look here:
http://www.simability.com/
http://members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/watch/0/3318275.page (only for people who have an account with iRacing)

I have purchased the 'SRW-S1 to G27' adapter and the SRW-S1 wheel (the wheel has not yet arrived) I think I 'm going to use the Logitech G27 as a base.

(if there are people who want to stay up-to-date, please let me know here and I will keep this post up-to-date with more information)

Keep us updated, would like to know how this turns out!

If you feel handy, you could take bicycle brake levers and attach the cable to a short throw axis, or even a really soft pedal from a console wheel. When you pull the lever it tightens the cable and pulls the throttle down.

This would take some fabrication but probably would yield the best quality result.

Here the update on my race wheel project.

I decided to purchase the Thrustmaster T300 RS.
Clann Sidman of http://www.simability.com has created an adapter for the SRW-S1 to T300

Photo 1, the SRW-S1 with special adapter made by Glenn


Photo 2 SRW-S1 mounted on the T300

It drives fantastic, much better than the Thrustmaster RGTFroce feedback. Everything is configured properly in the options of LFS and other racing games.

Glenn is also working on a project to make 360 hand controls for the Thrustmaster T300 (without the SRW-S1 wheel) look the movie on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMDgQU8DpwQ
He also works on a 360 hand controls for Ligitech G27 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o92XJySoIw

Both are not yet for sale, if you are interested keep an eye on the website http://www.simability.com or contact Glenn Sidman.