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Voted for the F50

Same here, some manual transmission goodness

http://www.assettocorsa.net/ferrari-70th-anniversary-pack/


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Quote from Boris Lozac :

Finally someone 'gets' how a track should look like on a bright sunny day

I have taken the track (Circuit Paul Ricard), and it is indeed very very nice ! Never drove on the real track to make a comparison, but seeing the lines to take on onboard videos over internet, and seeing you have to do the same in AC makes the experience very pleasant ! Top work from the people who did this

How Stefano Casillo of Kunos Simulazioni treats users in private



What a moron, never going to buy a game from this dude ever again.

indeed, the reaction is ...


anyway, the game/sim is so much popular (for the target it should have) and bring to the guys doing it so much money, that it may let them think they are a bit above God
... and I tend to have the same feeling than the guy describing the stuff , something is wrong when applying brake gently in a corner

That's quite an old screenie, i remember that being on RD last year even. Still, a stupid way to treat others. It's good that the other people behind this game have a bit more sense.

Anyone declaring themselves 'Lord [whatever]' has far bigger problems than not being able to programme tyre physics properly...

Been around for a long time now... besides, everything on the internet is real.

Its no secret that Stefano can be rather emotional. This screenshot is from ~2015 iirc and does not show that if followed an open thread that accused the Devs (=only him) of programming shit. I can't remember which thread it was exactly as it happens often, just recently with that one Caterham modder - where Stefano initially reacted rather brutal aswell, but then pointed out errors that guy had made.

And you don't have to look far for another Dev with a short fuse

I'm done with this game. If anyone wants to buy my account drop me a PM. Got all but the latest DLC on it.

Buy your Steam account? That's a horrendously bad idea on so many levels...

"Can you sell your games on Steam?
Nope, you can't. Not in your Library, anyway. If you have extra games in your inventory, you can sell/trade them as you feel like--Steam is not obligated to protect you if you do game-selling outside its system, though. ... But so far, it's not possible to sell/trade from Library."

Update: Tested on a different rig with seemingly identical game settings and there is noticeably less delay, so the issue might have more to do with my own setup rather than AC's code.

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Was away from AC for a long time. Got whatever latest update there was today and fired it up. There appears to be a very long gear engage delay or shift time limit on H-shifter cars and I have to release the clutch at a surprisingly late time for each shift. Otherwise the gear fails to engage and gearbox damage kicks in. On some cars a successful shift has to be done so slowly, when I finally get into gear the engine rev has dropped way below the rev match point (doing normal throttle cutting) and the drive line has to drag the engine back to speed, which is kinda funny on a typical sports car with a syncro box.

Was AC always like this or did they make it this way during a recent update? I don't remember having so much trouble shifting the last time I played it (which was at least more than half a year ago if not longer, so I guess a lot has happened).

Quote from Keling :

Was away from AC for a long time. Got whatever latest update there was today and fired it up. There appears to be a very long gear engage delay or shift time limit on H-shifter cars and I have to release the clutch at a surprisingly late time for each shift. Otherwise the gear fails to engage and gearbox damage kicks in. On some cars a successful shift has to be done so slowly, when I finally get into gear the engine rev has dropped way below the rev match point (doing normal throttle cutting) and the drive line has to drag the engine back to speed, which is kinda funny on a typical sports car with a syncro box.

Was AC always like this or did they make it this way during a recent update? I don't remember having so much trouble shifting the last time I played it (which was at least more than half a year ago if not longer, so I guess a lot has happened).

Not sure what's happened but I don't have this issue. Maybe in some of the really really old cars, but definitely nothing modern, so I'm not sure what's happening for you but hopefully you can sort it out.

AC's gearbox damage develops at a ridiculously high rate. Is there any real life test on how quickly one can kill a gear by grinding it, even if you could make the synchro fail? I'm fairly sure the amount of time I've spent grinding the box on an old car I used to drive is not on the same order of magnitude compared to the time it takes to kill the whole box in AC, and it works just fine.

@Ball_Bearing_Turbo
Thanks. Tested on a different computer and got much less lag. Looks like some issue on my part rather than AC's code.

Quote from Keling :

AC's gearbox damage develops at a ridiculously high rate. Is there any real life test on how quickly one can kill a gear by grinding it, even if you could make the synchro fail? I'm fairly sure the amount of time I've spent grinding the box on an old car I used to drive is not on the same order of magnitude compared to the time it takes to kill the whole box in AC, and it works just fine.

Definitely agree with this. Of course I've never missed 3 shifts on a hot lap in a real version of any of these cars. One thing is that maybe since in a real transmission you're going to be limited by how much force you can put into a "bad shift" but you're allowed to move the shifter all the way on something like a G25, and maybe that creates a lot more simulated damage.... I don't know, just probably making up crap at this point but I do agree it's terrible unforgiving, and some cars more than others.

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@Ball_Bearing_Turbo
Thanks. Tested on a different computer and got much less lag. Looks like some issue on my part rather than AC's code.

@Ball_Bearing_Turbo
There's no way AC is doing any proper simulation/estimation of dog damage based on how much force is being applied to the structure.

A sim gated shifter only provides a few digital controller buttons, one for each gear. There's no analog input for the game code to calculate how far the engaged gear selector rod should move or how much axial force is present. It's either fully in or not.

Even if we ignore the lack of input AC's gearbox model just doesn't make sense. When you fail to engage a gear there's appears to be no synchro and the box always grind. When you do get a successful shift gearbox input is rev matched almost instantly as if it carries no rotational inertia. When damage happens it even applies to the whole box. There's no damage counter per gear/dog.


Edit: Playing a grinding noise might make sense because you can't get feedback from the shifter. The audio effect makes it easier to tell you didn't get into gear.

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@Ball_Bearing_Turbo
There's no way AC is doing any proper simulation/estimation of dog damage based on how much force is being applied to the structure.

Probably right, but I don't know what it's trying to do for sure.

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A sim gated shift only provides a few digital controller buttons, one for each gear. There's no analog input for the game code to calculate how far the engaged gear selector rod should move or how much axial force is present. It's either fully in or not.

Yes I understand this, that was the foundation of my previous unlikely hypothesis about what could've been happening.

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Even if we ignore the lack of input AC's gearbox model just doesn't make sense. When you fail to engage a gear there's appears to be no synchro and the box always grind. When you do get a successful shift gearbox input is rev matched almost instantly as if it carries no rotational inertia. When damage happens it even applies to the whole box. There's no damage counter per gear/dog.

No there is no damage per cog obviously, but older cars cannot be shifted as quickly which lends itself to the fact that there could be more attempted complexity than there appears to be... Or, it could be as simple as "car x and only change gears at Y speed". Maybe a mod maker would have more insight, I've not researched this at all. Just "thinking out loud" so feel free to ignore it

Quote from kars19 :

Dont really play much AC but taht video was genius and on further inspection i found this in his uploads, just lmao

Quote from Keling :

@Ball_Bearing_Turbo
There's no way AC is doing any proper simulation/estimation of dog damage based on how much force is being applied to the structure.

AC has very rudimentary gearbox and drivetrain simulation at the moment, the Dev's are aware of that. I think at some point they had initiative to change it, but then along came the Porsche licence.

This is all that's behind ACs current gearbox engagement and damage model:

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[GEARBOX]
CHANGE_UP_TIME=260 ; change up time in milliseconds
CHANGE_DN_TIME=270 ; change down time in milliseconds
AUTO_CUTOFF_TIME=260 ; Auto cutoff time for upshifts in milliseconds, 0 to disable
SUPPORTS_SHIFTER=1 ; 1=Car supports shifter, 0=car supports only paddles
VALID_SHIFT_RPM_WINDOW=800 ;range window additional to the precise rev matching rpm that permits gear engage.
CONTROLS_WINDOW_GAIN=0.4 ;multiplayer for gas,brake,clutch pedals that permits gear engage on different rev matching rpm. the lower the more difficult.
INERTIA=0.022 ; gearbox inertia. default values to 0.02 if not set

[CLUTCH]
MAX_TORQUE=300

[DAMAGE]
RPM_WINDOW_K=100

I bought AC just because wanted to experience Nordschleife. Nah, that track wasnt included in the main package of 30€ so I tested some rounds at Spa, but just didnt got excited of it, and forgot it for a while.

Somewhat a week ago I bought the additional pack with Nordschleife, and THAT was exciting. I have had superfun times on Track Day servers at the tourist course. (then of course had to buy all extra packs to have all vintage cars...I love to drive the tuned Escort 1600 around that track)

I wouldn't laugh to AC, its just different like all other sims, it has its pros and cons. And its true it has lot to learn from LFS.

(While I had to install Steam, I also decided to test demo versions of Rfactor and Rfactor2, they also felt very weird, like AC felt at first feel. Now I insalled also free version of RaceRoom Racing... but I dont want to go offtopic more than that )

btw found a copy of GP Legends from internet, it works in Win 10
I was curious to see if the old version Nordschleife (I mean the 22.8km long without curbs) is more attractive...holy cats, with all respect of that masterpiece...have to say that it looked horrible now 19 years after its release

Looking for AC servers not running on Nordschleife is like looking for LFS servers that are not cruise

Quote from P1lot :

Looking for AC servers not running on Nordschleife is like looking for LFS servers that are not cruise

I understand...actually there are some GT2/GT3 servers...but what I have read several forums about online activity of racing simulators, I have understood that iRacing is only sim that has much activity in online racing. All others are "dead" in many opinions that I read... But yes, there are too many empty servers in AC...I think ppl nowadays just like to hang around on parking places...why not, its social

oh lol, witten this, I found one AC server running Blackwood (!) and Lotus sport cars with 5 racers

Im sorry for asking this on page 177 of this thread, but I would like to know: Does anyone have complained about a serious graphic bug in AC - when you follow other car in curve, the prespective of the car in front of you, is in many cases, totally ****ed up.

For example when I follow F40 in Nordschleife, that Ferrari looks like its negative-drifting all curves, and that looks really ugly, like the Ferrari had a serious damage in control arm (but it doesnt).

seems like you have FOV set up wrong. Can't remember what I have set mine to (not at home), but there are plenty of guides to do that according to your screen size and distance.