One thing, between many others that afixes me to LFS is the impressive immersion of multiplayer experience.
When a pilot by your side turn the head to you, the mp experience is carried to its limit, but one the most important thing there, is that the other pilot has no face, no traces, it is just a helmet and it can be anyone your mind figures, like read a book without pictures.
This thing works in the same way when you watch a replay, so you see yourself in that car, not a toy, not a doll, not a stupid frozen mannequin.
That is a lesson that should be learned by the others developers, a lesson of simplicity and economy, immersion and solution.
That brings a better simulation, against the arcade-like sensation of those ridiculous faces present in other simulators like GTR, RF, RBR, NKP and others.
A piece of inteligence, a good thing that should be followed
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- Speed Soro
Black Helmet Visors X Painted Pilot Faces or a Hardcore X Arcade discussion
I am sorry... but the point about this topic is that other games should have turning heads?
I am very confused here. Lost actually.... :zombie:
I am very confused here. Lost actually.... :zombie:
hmm, perhaps I misunderstand the post. So Speed Soro, you think that a black visor is good? Or do you want to see a pilot's face?
I am not sure if he was suggesting something, but pointing out the reasons why LFS's Helmets are better? I'll just wait and see what he meant, because I cannot seem to understand this. 
For the record, I'd prefer to see a clear visor with a skinnable face.
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- Speed Soro
Well, I'm surprised I did not make understand me.
My post is not a sugestion, I guess, it is a sugestion, but for other games.
It is about how good is the way the LFS does the immersion with black visor solution.
I think other games should follow the same format.
A black visor permits you to see the other pilot as you want.
When a game uses to paint a mask on a ball, you got a doll, not a human pilot. Doing the thing like LFS does, you have better immersion, and better replays too.
It does not matter if you are black, white, or have a big nose, whatever, you see you there, cause there are no face in that model.
I think this is the best solution and hope scavier does never change this feature.
..right
i say the opposite; yes there will still be a fair amount of tint, but you have to have enough tint on a helmet; but i think it would be most realistic to see some face or something; not all games do this well, but my idea is somewhat similar to toca race drivers'
once again, this is a graphics thing, LFS has a way to go graphically into todays' world of games if it wants to make some income
i say the opposite; yes there will still be a fair amount of tint, but you have to have enough tint on a helmet; but i think it would be most realistic to see some face or something; not all games do this well, but my idea is somewhat similar to toca race drivers'
once again, this is a graphics thing, LFS has a way to go graphically into todays' world of games if it wants to make some income
Skinning the driver would be no harder than skinning the car. I'd like to see the face become editable. You could be whoever you wanted to be that way, even yourself! 
Me too! I would make a skull texture for the face!
My avatar is from GP4.
Real drivers have a choice between a tinted visor or a clear visor. If people want to show their face, I think the driver's suit and face should be a skin for LFSW, and you can control the tint + color with sliders in the game.
If you just want the black tinted visors all the time, well that is too bad, because LFS could look really nice with clear visors and an improved helmet. Other games don't do it too well, and I would be 100% sure that the LFS devs could make something that is very cool looking.
This is kind of a suggestion thread (now it is), but also a suggestion for other games. Whatever it is, I think it leaves us to debate on what we like. I for one would like an improved looking driver, it ADDs to the multiplayer experience, and doesn't ruin it.
If you just want the black tinted visors all the time, well that is too bad, because LFS could look really nice with clear visors and an improved helmet. Other games don't do it too well, and I would be 100% sure that the LFS devs could make something that is very cool looking.
This is kind of a suggestion thread (now it is), but also a suggestion for other games. Whatever it is, I think it leaves us to debate on what we like. I for one would like an improved looking driver, it ADDs to the multiplayer experience, and doesn't ruin it.
I'm with Soro here. Imagination is much more powerful than vision. Helmets bring equality: no-one is judged by their looks but instead of their driving.
Colors and textures of helmets and cars (=skins) don't actually show anything about the driver her/himself. Faces - even if virtual, but still visual - are in much more personal level than the color of helmet.
Black visor brings equality in sense that we're only judged by the edge of our skills or the sharpness of our tongue.
Colors and textures of helmets and cars (=skins) don't actually show anything about the driver her/himself. Faces - even if virtual, but still visual - are in much more personal level than the color of helmet.
Black visor brings equality in sense that we're only judged by the edge of our skills or the sharpness of our tongue.
You would judge a person by the texture on they used the front of their virtual helmet in a race sim?
Nah, I'm just bored at work
But sorry, I can't rephrase my train of though ts into words right now Like someone in some other thread said: if I have time to look at graphical gimmicks, then I don't drive fast enough.
I love this sim as much as the next man but fmd we seem to go off on the most bizarre tangents , who gives a tinkers what the driver looks like?
But for sheer amusement a skinable face would be fun..
But for sheer amusement a skinable face would be fun..
+1 for skinnable face. i remember my freind having a formula 1 game for the playstation2 where you could map your own head onto the driver using an eyetoy. it was fun. especially mapping gollums ehad onto it.
So I rather prefer black visors.
It will never be realistic to see any painted face... BTW there are some players that modify their helmets in LFS, giving to them a head format, and sure, that look disgusting.
Games like GTR and rFactor have this ridiculous feature.
And I do not prefer personalized faces too, cause we use to play against kids, and sure I don't want to see their faces when driving... I prefer do not distract myself laughing about them when drive in competition mode.
Well, this is a preference question. I vote for the current format
It will never be realistic to see any painted face... BTW there are some players that modify their helmets in LFS, giving to them a head format, and sure, that look disgusting.
Games like GTR and rFactor have this ridiculous feature.
And I do not prefer personalized faces too, cause we use to play against kids, and sure I don't want to see their faces when driving... I prefer do not distract myself laughing about them when drive in competition mode.
Well, this is a preference question. I vote for the current format
I hope not, nice idea but we'll end up with too many bad quality/unrealisitic
faces.
i disagree. McLaren used to have a camera from just behind the steering wheel looking at the driver and with a clear visor you could easily see the drivers face. Faces would be awesome as would setting the colour/tint of your visor.
you can change the colour of the tint. just you have to do it on the skin.
You can't. Even if you paint it white, it will remain black in the game.
Personally, I don't think skinnable face is necessary. You hardly see a helmet skin, so face (in fact, only eyes) would be even less visible.
Personally, I don't think skinnable face is necessary. You hardly see a helmet skin, so face (in fact, only eyes) would be even less visible.
+1 for a modifyable face like the nVidia demo, but -1 for fully skinnable faces because of...
...this sort of thing would just spoil the game.
Me too! I would make a skull texture for the face!...this sort of thing would just spoil the game.
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I won't. I'll end up with a realistic looking face and driver. But if people wanted to drive as Harry Potter or Senna or whatever, it doesn't bother me. At the moment we all look like a cross between Boba Fett and the Stig.
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I absolutely support Speed Soro here. Black visors is a typical Scavier's elegant approach. I love it.
Clear visor and visible player's face only as a webcam live footage.
I wouldn't like transparent visors. However, I would like fully paintable visors. So you can really let the visors shine, instead of black with a tint. (see attachment).
But to be honest, I think a better shape is more important.
But to be honest, I think a better shape is more important.
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