The online racing simulator
reconditioned?, do you mean remoulds, or part worns, either way, I would get new ones.

Dan,
Quote from tristancliffe :On a front engined, front wheel drive car (i.e. the front tyres have to do everything, and the rear tyres exist only to stop the fuel tank rubbing on the ground)...

illepall

IMHO you ain´t got a clue about cars at all dude...
Quote from Becky Rose :reconstituted rubber is deadly in the wet. That's the difference.

Touche!

New tyres it is. I got a good bet that 2 fronts will be changed, one has a very slow puncture, the other tyre is worn out on the sides.
Quote from Crazy Harry : illepall

IMHO you ain´t got a clue about cars at all dude...

who needs Tires in the Read End on a FWD Car

in that case, massive camber & track settings (in the rear) wouldnt effect the cars at all
Pass me the telephone number of your boss mate!
ok its 555 - chilling @ work

omg im off topic, help!
My God, you two need to learn the use of sarcasm and irony. Do you not remember the time Piquet was asked how important the tyres were in F1, and said they were very important because they stopped the chassis rubbing on the ground?

Do you HONESTLY think I believe the rear wheels are only there to stop the rear wearing away? Besides, what would you know, driving the easiest car on the easiest track a million times...
Quote from tristancliffe :
Do you HONESTLY think I believe the rear wheels are only there to stop the rear wearing away? Besides, what would you know, driving the easiest car on the easiest track a million times...

As a "racedriver" () you know that driving a car irl and playing a computer game has nothing to do with each other. A friend of mine replaced his rear shocks in his Golf I with static welded metal sticks for fun(damn language barriere). Hard like hell but undrivable. The back spins at low speed.

BTW: Knowing how to use google has nothing to do with knowledge, mate. =)
Quote from tristancliffe :[1.] My God, you two need to learn the use of sarcasm and irony. Do you not remember the time Piquet was asked how important the tyres were in F1, and said they were very important because they stopped the chassis rubbing on the ground?

[2] Do you HONESTLY think I believe the rear wheels are only there to stop the rear wearing away? Besides, what would you know, driving the easiest car on the easiest track a million times...

[1] same to you mate

[2] yes

btw, i can only speak for myself here, harry is not my siamese twin so i dont know if he was 4real or not
Quote from tristancliffe :My God, you two need to learn the use of sarcasm and irony. Do you not remember the time Piquet was asked how important the tyres were in F1, and said they were very important because they stopped the chassis rubbing on the ground?

Do you HONESTLY think I believe the rear wheels are only there to stop the rear wearing away? Besides, what would you know, driving the easiest car on the easiest track a million times...

Tristan, Tristan, Tristan, I would have thought that by now old boy you would have realised that sarcasm and irony does not work well in forum posts .

Especially not when directed to some of the most humourless races on the face of the earth

Dan,
Knowing how to use google? I think you'll find I already knew the Piquet quote. And if you're friend welds up his suspension, and you hang around with this guy, then I can only assume that both of your are fools.

Finally, why is that you, Crazy Harry, and 523434324D always post in pairs, and bounce your immature comments off each other.

Really finally, I think you'll find that Sim racing and Real racing DO have a lot in common. It's not a direct replacement, of course not, but one can teach skills and knowledge that is useful in the other.

Dan - sarcasm and irony can work well - I use it a lot and most people realise. And despite many of the German people on this forum being thouroughly nice, friendly, funny, witty people, the two aforementioned people do nothing but strengthen the stereotype of the German people. Such a shame really, but you can't expect much from those two (and I'm sure in a few minutes the wonders of MSN will attract yet more humourless German oval 'junkies' (what a stupid name) to this thread on a mission to attack Tristan).
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Finally, why is that you, Crazy Harry, and 523434324D always post in pairs, and bounce your immature comments off each other.

Really finally, I think you'll find that Sim racing and Real racing DO have a lot in common. It's not a direct replacement, of course not, but one can teach skills and knowledge that is useful in the other...blihblahbloh...

1. Plaztik imho is at work in north of germany and i´m sitting at home 510n3d (:tilt in front of my pc. So it´s not planned.

2. I know. Command & Conquer helped me a lot to get the job as a 4 star general in the german army ages ago. My boss (Minister of defense) was very impressed about my c&c skill.

3. Not MSN... Ventrilo.
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Quote from tristancliffe :Finally, why is that you, Crazy Harry, and 523434324D always post in pairs, and bounce your immature comments off each other.

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Quote from BigDave2967 :Touche!

New tyres it is. I got a good bet that 2 fronts will be changed, one has a very slow puncture, the other tyre is worn out on the sides.

Sounds like the fronts are in serious need of retirement. Don't ignore the rears though, even if they are still legal.

Running different tyres front and rear is not advisable, and running what I imagine are older/partly worn rear tyres (possibly cheap ones, I don't know) in conjunction with brand-new decent fronts will give you a problem which is the absolute opposite of the one you described in your first post. I.e oversteer. Sounds like fun I know, but when a motorway suddenly gets wet and there's an uneasy light sensation at the rear, in a straight line, it's not so much fun.

If you can stretch to it, I strongly advise you to change all 4.
Quote from sinbad :Sounds like fun I know, but when a motorway suddenly gets wet and there's an uneasy light sensation at the rear, in a straight line, it's not so much fun.

I know the dangers of running different tyres, but how the heck should that happen?
Quote from AndroidXP :I know the dangers of running different tyres, but how the heck should that happen?

Because a cheap, worn, old, rear tyre will aquaplane long before a quality front tyre.
Quote from sinbad :Sounds like the fronts are in serious need of retirement. Don't ignore the rears though, even if they are still legal.

Running different tyres front and rear is not advisable, and running what I imagine are older/partly worn rear tyres (possibly cheap ones, I don't know) in conjunction with brand-new decent fronts will give you a problem which is the absolute opposite of the one you described in your first post. I.e oversteer. Sounds like fun I know, but when a motorway suddenly gets wet and there's an uneasy light sensation at the rear, in a straight line, it's not so much fun.

If you can stretch to it, I strongly advise you to change all 4.

I can afford that, so no worries, better safe than sorry. But the two rears don't even look worn, they look new. Which is why I was only worrying on keeping the front two changed. If I get oversteer, *since I know the car too well, I'll know when its about to oversteer.* then I'll change the rear tyres also.
Quote from sinbad :Because a cheap, worn, old, rear tyre will aquaplane long before a quality front tyre.

Yeah, but when you drive in a straight line, there's no chance in hell that your rears start aquaplaning, because the fronts already pushed all that water out of the way. Or are you talking of tropical-monsoon amounts of rain?
He was driving 60mph and got understeer! To get a 1.3 Astra to understeer at 60mph you need to stab the throttle through the floor, even if there was oil on ice .

I have a 140hp fwd car and I can control the car even on snow that I won't get understeer, if I don't want to. And so can 4 million finns. But to break traction in 1.3 astra, even on wet, you need to be quite awful with your car control.

Though 60mph is defenately enough to get the fronts aquaplaning if there is not enough tread on the tires. But imho, it is defenately more issue of a car control than bad tires...
Now that u have decided to buy new tires it might be usefull to look up some Opel forums and try and find out which brands seem to be good for your car.
Whatever u do ,dont go for 15£ tires or stick on summertires because their grip will be utter shite in the wet.
Best are probably all season tires whith an emphasis on wet grip, as almost all cars have plenty of grip in the dry but u can use all the grip u can get in the wet
Quote from tristancliffe :Knowing how to use google? I think you'll find I already knew the Piquet quote. And if you're friend welds up his suspension, and you hang around with this guy, then I can only assume that both of your are fools.

Finally, why is that you, Crazy Harry, and 523434324D always post in pairs, and bounce your immature comments off each other.

Really finally, I think you'll find that Sim racing and Real racing DO have a lot in common. It's not a direct replacement, of course not, but one can teach skills and knowledge that is useful in the other.

Dan - sarcasm and irony can work well - I use it a lot and most people realise. And despite many of the German people on this forum being thouroughly nice, friendly, funny, witty people, the two aforementioned people do nothing but strengthen the stereotype of the German people. Such a shame really, but you can't expect much from those two (and I'm sure in a few minutes the wonders of MSN will attract yet more humourless German oval 'junkies' (what a stupid name) to this thread on a mission to attack Tristan).

well, Tristan, (yes i actually can type this name without any pain) for the techniqual side, you may have some or more skills and knowledge (or not), i dont know because i cant see you or can figure out where all these informations (other posts) came from and i dont really care anyway. Same goes to the relationship between Harry and me, you know nothing about us and your arrogantly behavior and the way you generalize things one more time makes me think that you need to learn the use of sarcasm and irony. Anyway, Dude, lets cut that off here and now, this is the wrong time and place for this kind of BS and we simple should try to avoid each other, because everytime something like this happens (exept on the banger server once we where all together).

I cant believe that happend again...
Quote from Hyperactive :He was driving 60mph and got understeer! To get a 1.3 Astra to understeer at 60mph you need to stab the throttle through the floor, even if there was oil on ice .

I have a 140hp fwd car and I can control the car even on snow that I won't get understeer, if I don't want to. And so can 4 million finns. But to break traction in 1.3 astra, even on wet, you need to be quite awful with your car control.

Though 60mph is defenately enough to get the fronts aquaplaning if there is not enough tread on the tires. But imho, it is defenately more issue of a car control than bad tires...

Umm what?

He took a corner at 60mph in the wet and understeared. Whys that hard?

I think you'll find if you took a hairpin for example in any car with any amount of power at 60mph in the wet you would understear horribly and crash. Power has nothing to do with it.
I'm not referring to any particular post in this thread but there really is a whole load of mis-information here.
Quote from Gentlefoot :I'm not referring to any particular post in this thread but there really is a whole load of mis-information here.

well, only some half knowledge here and there, some off topic chit chat which ended up quickly - nothing serious. I apologize for this and now get over it and back on topic, please.

Thank you.
Quote from pb32000 :Umm what?

He took a corner at 60mph in the wet and understeared. Whys that hard?

I think you'll find if you took a hairpin for example in any car with any amount of power at 60mph in the wet you would understear horribly and crash. Power has nothing to do with it.

He is driving on public roads and gets understeer with his 1.3 fwd car. Sure he is pushing the car, because I have driven many years in much worse conditions than rain and still I don't get understeer when I'm driving normally. If you are a sane person with at least some car handling skills and sense, you won't get understeer on 60mph on a corner. It is either he is overdriving the corner, the corner is too sharp for such speeds or there is a monsoon rain.

In short, imho, you get understeer in rain only if you're driving way too fast. You don't need to go very fast to get your car aqyaplaning, if the conditions are bad enough.

I leave your comments about 60mph and hairpins as it is. It has nothing to do with this discussion.

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