Germany is still in the dark ages of modern communications.

This thread is a prime example of broken communication, because you completely failed to get your point across.


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Seems to be a big boss at Deutche Telekom...or something like that.

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This thread is a prime example of broken communication, because you completely failed to get your point across.
PS:

I think most people in D knows this sucker. I´m talking about the 24h disconnection. illepall

If you have a good enough router, there's no problem to adjust the time when it happens - and you're usaually connected again in a few seconds, not much more than a little lag...
If that is to severe for you, simply get a T1

I always thought Ron Sommer the former (mis)manager and Chairman of the Deutsche Telekom was responsible for the "after 24 hours you get a disconnetion of Telekom DSL in Germany"

Maybe you also should hate him Crazy Harry

AFAIK it's just there for 1 reason.
People and small companies shouldn't open up web- or mailservers with cheap DSL accounts and static IP adresses.

So they cut your DSL line every 24 hours and give you usually a new IP
(like herki said if you use a good router you can tell when you want it i.e. at 4:40 in the morning or whenever).

btw who would buy or rent a mail- / webserver if it wasn't made that way here

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I always thought Ron Sommer the former (mis)manager and Chairman of the Deutsche Telekom was responsible for the "after 24 hours you get a disconnetion of Telekom DSL in Germany"

Maybe you also should hate him Crazy Harry

I will!

Quote from BBO@BSR :

AFAIK it's just there for 1 reason.
People and small companies shouldn't open up web- or mailservers with cheap DSL accounts and static IP adresses.

So they cut your DSL line every 24 hours and give you usually a new IP
(like herki said if you use a good router you can tell when you want it i.e. at 4:40 in the morning or whenever).

I know. It suckz if you have a small (drift-)server open. LFS disconnects every 24h.

Quote from BBO@BSR :

So they cut your DSL line every 24 hours and give you usually a new IP

btw who would buy or rent a mail- / webserver if it wasn't made that way here

That sucks. But I don't think that people would stop buying mail/webservers, because home connections usually "suck" in other ways too. Biggest is probably the low upload bandwidth compared to professional connections.

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That sucks. But I don't think that people would stop buying mail/webservers, because home connections usually "suck" in other ways too. Biggest is probably the low upload bandwidth compared to professional connections.

That's true but in some bigger cities here you get DSL with 16000 down and 1024 UP for only ~25 to 30 Euros That can be enough for smaller companies or private use.

For me the main problem is you pay the same money no matter if they can offer you 16000 or not. They only say you get as much as the line can bring you. So if you are lucky you get it or in small town (like mine) you'll never get near it

It's a strange system because it is far too frequent by the sounds of it. I have the same limitation on my connection here in the UK but the IP only changes sporadically, maybe once a month or 2. I can't see it really helping much anyway because for a start there are ways to do dynamic DNS now, even a massive website could be hosted on a few quid hosting account simply with a redirect and an automatic update script, and server operators should be able to do that.

The main thing is though, they only need put it in the license agreement because they can track whether you run a server or not anyway just by monitoring your bandwidth trends which they probably are already doing.

I gotta say, that whole system sucks - but your upload bandwidth is much better than the UK so i'm jelous of that. I have a 10mbit connection but the upload speed is only a few hundred kbit/sec (not sure exactly, I think 384).

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It's a strange system...

It is

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The main thing is though, they only need put it in the license agreement because they can track whether you run a server or not anyway just by monitoring your bandwidth trends which they probably are already doing.

Yes they have it in the license agreements and they also do monitor the bandwith we use here (but they can't do it officially because when you got a flatrate then some of our telecommunication laws don't allow the provider to monitor it.
Because if they were allowed to do it then they would try to get rid of the "powerusers" with high up- and download rates (i.e. high means here more then 20 to 25 GB/month or else you destroy there mixed calculation). illepall

But they do it anyway and in the past they phoned or wrote users and asked if they want to have 100 Euros for changing to another provider (but you have to sign a contract that you'll never come back to that provider etc.)

All in all it's really strange here sometimes

yayness for my provider ... under full load i dont get 24h discos but 2h discos (probably my modem thats acting up ... it gets rather hot) but otherwise the connection doesnt disconnect automatically and no one seems to care about how much traffic i generate ... the only downside is its slow as heck 1.5 down 1 up
oh and best of all they never used an interleaver in the first place

Some ISPs have been known to have a disconnection policy of only 30 minutes. And on dial-up, no less. Madness.

I know that my ISP, in the 3 years I've been connected with them, I've had 1 IP change ever, and they say its Dynamic too. I do think that some countries need to up their internet connection supply, many european countries seem to be far ahead of us, but then theres just as many that have problems.

To be honest, I'm pretty happy with the broadband situation here.
Currently I'm paying like 20€/mo for 6mbit/640kbit DSL and the quality of service couldn't be better. No outages, always very low pings and you always get the max line speed, peak times or not. No "fair use" policies, no traffic shaping, no blocked ports.

Granted, I could do without the 24h disconnect, but that's a pretty minor annoyance, considering you can just set up your router so the disconnect occurs at like 5am.