The online racing simulator
Hey come on now don't get offended I think us wheel users are just saying that well hmmmm....since it's a car simulator and not just any old game that people should think about the realism of a mouse compared to a wheel.....and how us wheel users hate to think we are being beaten by somebody just moving a mouse or tapping a keyboard.....You do whatever you want, if you can't afford it I'm sure I understand, but it's not that much more then the game it self......Okay enough, I love everyone no matter what they use. Peace
#52 - Gunn
Quote from [RCG]Boosted :
im not going to post anymore in this topic cuz that really makes me upset.

People with similar equipment want to have a contest against each other and you equate that with racism? That kind of thing makes me upset.
Quote from Gunn :People with similar equipment want to have a contest against each other and you equate that with racism? That kind of thing makes me upset.

Well said
Quote from Crazy Harry :Another problem is that "W" also means Joystick. And that is imho even more difficult as mouse driving.

I was wondering when someone would bring joysticks up. I've always raced with a joystick, and found moving to a wheel made me seriously dislike LFS (I blame not using a good wheel, not the game). Joysticks are nowhere near as hard as mouse, though. At least with a joystick you have analogue acceleration and braking.
+1. I really don't see any problem with this option. Others like force cockpit view/ no driving assists are also needed. The real argument here is players like to compete on a level playing field. Be it mouse/kb exclusive or wheel exclusive it doesn't matter.

All the hype about splitting the community is just nonsense. If you really believe that, then you must be very new around here. Remember the same doom and gloom stories were perpetuated back when they made the kb/mouse a little harder.
Quote from Macfox :+1. I really don't see any problem with this option. Others like force cockpit view/ no driving assists are also needed. The real argument here is players like to compete on a level playing field. Be it mouse/kb exclusive or wheel exclusive it doesn't matter.

There will never be an even playing field. Even if you only allow racers with wheels, some of them will have $500+ wheels while others have $30 wheels; some will have $5000 super machines, others will be running on their $500 Dells.

That said, I agree that the server operator should be able to enforce restrictions in cases where players are choosing options that increase the difficulty of the simulation.

For example, let's say you get a clutch pedal and turns auto-blip off. You have increased the difficulty of your simulation and are likely at a disadvantage to players using the auto-clutch. However, if you run a server today, people using auto-clutches are free to join. In order to be on an even playing field, you would have to dumb down your version of the simulation, choosing auto-clutch.

In that case, a server option to only allow fully manual clutches makes sense, so people playing a more difficult version of the simulation can have a fair race.

It makes no sense to have a server option that only allows auto-clutchers. If you are using auto-clutch, nobody joining has any competitive advantage on you. You are no forced to dumb anything down to complete. Option not necessarily.

If you are using a mouse/kb, you are at a disadvantage (in most cases) to players using wheels. In that case, an option to allow only mouse/kb users makes sense, so people playing a more difficult version of the simulation can have a fair race.

It makes no sense to have a server option that allows only wheel users. Mouse/kb users joining your server don't have an unfair advantage, they aren't forcing you to simplify your experience in any way to complete, so the option to exclude them doesn't make any sense.
I agree with you on both points. However it not always clear the wheel is better than keyboard or who it disadvantages. For instance... It could be argued that kb'rs are at a disadvantage, thus more likely to cause accidents (turn 1 etc) due to the limited brake control.

Just my take on it. No doubt someone will disagree.
#58 - Gunn
Well of course you'd throw in an option to allow ALL of the force feedback keybords and mice to join in. That goes without saying. :cake:

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