is there a way to change something in a car file to make the cars stop at a different rev instead of going all the way to redlining, like rb4 goes to 9000rpm but can u change it so it maxes out at about 7500 or 8000 if u get me,, if any1 knows would be kewl, thanks james

No.
You should be glad we have a rev limiter at all

No, you can't, its one of the things I think LFS needs, adjustable rev limiters, shift lights, and shift lights that work like they do IRL

Dan,

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is there a way to change something in a car file to make the cars stop at a different rev instead of going all the way to redlining, like rb4 goes to 9000rpm but can u change it so it maxes out at about 7500 or 8000 if u get me,, if any1 knows would be kewl, thanks james

I'm not trying to be cheeky, but ,why?
What would a limiter do that the throttle can't do?

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I'm not trying to be cheeky, but ,why?
What would a limiter do that the throttle can't do?

So you don't damage the engine?

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So you don't damage the engine?

LOL , I suppose if there was damage the dev's wuda included one, but thos little sim engines are GREAT are'nt they...the're probably good for a million miles at full torque

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LOL , I suppose if there was damage the dev's wuda included one, but thos little sim engines are GREAT are'nt they...the're probably good for a million miles at full torque

There is (or at least there WAS) engine damage in LFS.

Dan,

Guys, we already have a limiter (and engine damage), and I'm not sure if it's possible at all to significantly damage the engine just by going full throttle. The only way I know to do it now is over revving the engine by downshifting too quickly.

Engine damage in LFS??? Really?
didn'y know dat to what extent? where can I read bout it?

http://www.lfsforum.net/showth ... p;highlight=engine+damage

Was certainly more prevelant in early versions, if you sat there with your foot on throttle in neutral the engine revs would drop down slowly as the engine became damaged, and it would start "popping".

I would'nt mind knowing for good, from someone in the know, if its been removed, if not it's certainly been toned down ALOT.

Dan,

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Engine damage in LFS??? Really?
didn'y know dat to what extent? where can I read bout it?

go down a straight in top gear going as fast as you can... then shift down to 1st as fast as you can....

then you'll know that there's engine damage in LFS

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go down a straight in top gear going as fast as you can... then shift down to 1st as fast as you can....

then you'll know that there's engine damage in LFS

Ouch! neva tryed that ill give it a whirl later tho Dusa make the 'crack 'pop' crackle 'grind noise too

lets just say popcorn comes to mind

lol,. i thought it would be a kewl idea,, and sumtimes on my g25 i kinda miss a gear or to lol. and ina race like gtr league, i cant really afford damaged enigines lol even tho its my fault for miss shifting:P hehe thanks for ur input tho. james

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So you don't damage the engine?

gas pedal controll ? common sense ?
traction controll on a 700hp 500kg car is one thing ... but rev limiters are really taking the whole electronic nanny business too far imho

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Was certainly more prevelant in early versions, if you sat there with your foot on throttle in neutral the engine revs would drop down slowly as the engine became damaged, and it would start "popping".

i am convinced that in p/q i got popping and less power output in the fxr from flatshifting even in short 5 lap races

Nothing to do with "nannying", its all down to longevity, obviously the big racing teams could care less about changing the engine every race, but many people like to have some sort of protection for the engine.

It's all very well saying throttle pedal and common sense, but when you are at 100% concertration on a track, the last thing you want to be worrying about is weather you are going to over-rev the engine and blow it, you want to be concentrating on driving/riding.

I am extremely glad my bike has an adjustable shift light and rev-limiter, riding a bike fast on the track is WAAAAAYYYY more involved than a car, and you need all your concentration just to keep it on the track.

You call it nannying, I call it sensible.

Dan,

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Nothing to do with "nannying", its all down to longevity, obviously the big racing teams could care less about changing the engine every race, but many people like to have some sort of protection for the engine.

It's all very well saying throttle pedal and common sense, but when you are at 100% concertration on a track, the last thing you want to be worrying about is weather you are going to over-rev the engine and blow it, you want to be concentrating on driving/riding.

I am extremely glad my bike has an adjustable shift light and rev-limiter, riding a bike fast on the track is WAAAAAYYYY more involved than a car, and you need all your concentration just to keep it on the track.

You call it nannying, I call it sensible.

Dan,

I understand many ppl may adapt that way of driving 'concentrating on the road not looking at the revs",...not here I try an eye on exactly what rev band I want to change gear/double clutching to keep the throttle/revs exactly where I want them driving through each peak band in each gear!
So 50/50 one eye on road and one on what the engine is doing!!!

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So 50/50 one eye on road and one on what the engine is doing!!!

You are gonna crash then.........alot............

Quote from danowat :

It's all very well saying throttle pedal and common sense, but when you are at 100% concertration on a track, the last thing you want to be worrying about is weather you are going to over-rev the engine and blow it, you want to be concentrating on driving/riding.

i could try to argue that considering what you engine does is a part of driving but that would be cheap
however those rare moments ive been in the zone i knew exactly how many rpm the engine did just from hearing lfses wonderfully informative engine sounds
i didnt have to look i didnt have to think about it i just knew ... maybe this only works for aural people like me but it does work (i also learn a lot faster if somebody lectures me or if i read the material out loud to myself)

Oh.....you are talking expressly about LFS?, no worries then

Dan,

Well, this is the "General LFS Discussion", isn't it?

It is, thats true, but I sorta talk about both LFS and RL, as LFS is trying to emulate RL.

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i could try to argue that considering what you engine does is a part of driving but that would be cheap
however those rare moments ive been in the zone i knew exactly how many rpm the engine did just from hearing lfses wonderfully informative engine sounds
i didnt have to look i didnt have to think about it i just knew ... maybe this only works for aural people like me but it does work (i also learn a lot faster if somebody lectures me or if i read the material out loud to myself)

Nope, I know what you say.

I would actually find it impossible to say what speed you should most corners at because I just dont know. I hardly ever look at the dials, although I sometimes spot the shift light. FFB, Engine sound, wind noise, tire scrub etc give me all the information I need in most cases.

Woz is right. You can't learn to drive or race 'by the numbers'. You have to drive at what feels like the right speed/gear for the conditions and not speed x at corner x regardless of conditions.

And yes we have engine damage and rev limiters. Take the FXR, do 140 down a straight then stick it in N/R. Good luck making it to the pits.

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gas pedal controll ? common sense ?
traction controll on a 700hp 500kg car is one thing ... but rev limiters are really taking the whole electronic nanny business too far imho

So a rev limiter, a standard feature of all automobiles which provides no benefits to speed or control, consisting of a simple fuel cut-off switch triggered by high RPMs, is "nanny business"...

But traction control, a complex computerized system which allows the driver to ignore all aspects of fine throttle control during launches and corner exits and simply floor the gas, is okay?

illepall That better be sarcasm.