Indeed, I've not noticed slick tyre squeal. You get a scrubbing noise from a locked or sliding tyre, but no high pitched squeal like a road car produces. I've not really done enough mileage on wets to say if they behave the same as slicks or road tyres, but I also don't remember hearing squeal.

I suspect that race tyre construction and compounds exhibit different behaviour to road car tyres under relative motion conditions regardless of the amount of tread present.

Isn't the squealling caused by having treads in the first place? So slicks tyres shouldn't shreik.

From Karting i do notice that you dont get much sound from slicks UNLESS you do a complete spin - i think slicks are just less noisy!

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Isn't the squealling caused by having treads in the first place? So slicks tyres shouldn't shreik.

That's what I figured, too. The treads separate/create the rubber patches, which can then move around more freely and create high frequency vibration much easier. On slicks the whole tyre is the rubber patch, and so you need much more force to make it vibrate. At least that's how I make it up in my mind.

But last time I spun a cut-slicked tyred car (ssshhh), I didn't have any recollection of them squealing.

But that might have been because I was too busy tightening my sphincter and reducing the outflow of waste material to notice whether or not the useless black round things on each corner were making funny noises.

Just as a little thought, you need some kind of energy to go into producing sound. This is energy that can make you turn, so with racing tyres you'd try minimise the energy going into whatever else and just focus on turning.

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But last time I spun a cut-slicked tyred car (ssshhh), I didn't have any recollection of them squealing.

But that might have been because I was too busy tightening my sphincter and reducing the outflow of waste material to notice whether or not the useless black round things on each corner were making funny noises.

well from my experience (it wasnt my fault - someone tapped me!), they squeal a small amount from sliding (the shame - on the first corner at Red Lodge i just take my foot off the throttle, start the slide and power slide round - no slower, much more fun and it makes anyone you've overtaked think twice before trying to get past, but when you do a full spin they get MUCH more loud and high pitched

Aha, Karts. I don't I've heard karts NOT squeal during sliding, but I can't remember the last time I heard a slick tyred racing car squeal (from trackside I mean).

Don't apologise (below)! I was speaking from a spectators point of view (I've watched more racing (karts or cars) then I've driven, so...)... But karts always squeal, especially indoor ones on concrete, and a lot on proper tarmac still, whereas your average Formula Ford or GP2 car spinning on slicks won't be squealing. Which is why I suspect compound and construction, as well as road material, must play a part.

Well, Karts are the only thing with Slicks i've ever driven! Sorry!

Soft kart tyres don't squeel, and neither do soft rain tyres, only the hard compounds do.

Can anyone else confirm this?

At the kart track I work on I regularly hear tyres squealing.
It needs a dry track, fast drivers and a fast corner.
Im no expert so this is just info, these are rental karts with 13hp, twin engines (6.5hp each) on Biz chassis.
I imagine the tyres are quite hard, but they are definately slicks.

On Topic - Gentlefoot, if your still after the pick up and play thing you can have my copy of Toca Race Driver 2. I never play it, its rubbish.
pm me if your interested
I still fire up GPL occasionally, the demo on BHM got me into it a few years ago. Updating it is not as hard as you think, and definately worth the effort. Never been online with it, and its so ridiculously hard I enjoy the challange. I never expect to make a full lap without spinning, when I do its great, when I dont I just laugh.

Quote from Gentlefoot :

I have been testing demos this weekend. I tested rFactor, GT Legends and netKarPro.

It has made me realise how good the FF and physics are in LFS. GT Legends was the best of the three IMO. The graphics were nice but what really made it for me was the sound. It was excellent.

rFactor I had problems with the FF. It seemed to work in reverse with some kind of wierd 'anti centering' pushing the wheel away from the centre instead of vice-versa. I checked all the settings but couldn't see anything so gave up on this pretty quickly.

NetKarPro just had no FF feel at all. Graphics weren't up to much either.

What we need is the sound and graphics of GTL and the physics of LFS and we'd have a great game.

Anyone played any other demos I should try?

Play the Nascar Racing Season 2003. It is the most realistic nascar game ever created. Well at least AI and Physics wise. The graphics are somewhat dated.

anyone else hate the tire squeal sound in gt4?