Quote from tpa :

And and I can't get the shifter into R... it just keeps on putting it in 5th. Any ideas?

i have the same problem, you'll find my thread here http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=15563. I'm a little too scared to break anything if i open it =/ but i guess i have to..

a week after normal usage , g25 right paddle and sequential gear up (back) have a fail rate of about 30%...
the rate is higher according to certain wheel angle.
had my momored for over 3 years, with way heavier usage than i have even started to give the g25 and it never missed a gear shift.
this is close to unusable now.
who do i have to mail in order to get this fixed?

(bought mine at pixmania)

GameRacer have the only G25s for sale in the UK at the moment, AFAIK. I was gonna get one for christmas but I don't think there's any chance of that now.

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

I think they should have, then we can show off our ripped calf muscles to all the ladys :P

i agree, i can push it down with my finger. lol

I just got my G25 today.

I can't believe it. I've been lusting after the DFP ever since it came out, but disregarded it as too expensive. So what do I do? Buy the twice more expensive G25. LOL.

The aluminum bits, the leather, the clutch, the less toy-like feel was what did it for me.

Now that I have the equipment, I'll have to buy LFS soon.

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This is my first wheel, and I was surprised by how much it still wasn't like real driving (generally speaking, nothing to do with the games themselves). Without the G forces, the weird noises, the vibrations, it doesn't approach the intensity of real life. (Obviously...)

I thought having a good wheel and game would magically close the gap. illepall No luck. I fully expect to take back everything I said above, since we should be concentrating on the similarities and not the differences.

Well whatever. I fully intend to enjoy this awesome wheel with LFS.

Quote from skstibi :

I got my replacement G25 2 days ago but this replacement one is loud, feels rough, gives 2X as much strength as the first one, and the shifter is a pain in the A$$ (the new knob is nicer tho )

Is this a new revision?

Well, I cancelled from FrontierPC yesterday, and re-ordered from NCIX, and I just recieved email that the G25 is at my house, too bad I gotta wait til school ends.

*3 hour count down starts...*

Congrats!

I want it. I want it. I want it. I want it. I want it. I want it. I want it. I want it. I want it. I want it. I want it. I want it. I want it. I want it. I want it. I want it.


NOW!!

Bleh, you can consider yourself lucky. Others have to wait weeks if not months for theirs!

I feel sad for you guys now.

*group hug*

I came home from work early yesterday and ruined Christmas. My wife had left it just inside the door when she got home. She let me have it ... then she let me have it early.

I LOVE IT!

Still trying to figure out how to get some more buttons close by. I have not been able to set up the shifter due to the custom race seat setup I have (need to modify). Currently I've got a PS2 style logitech controler zip tied to the bottom wheel spoke.

I did test the shifter and it works well. As Tweaker said, I really only see using it for playing around (unless we could get a series going that everyone is using the gate shifter).

The quality of this product is outstanding, I did have one little bur on my left paddle but nothing a little filing won't fix.

anyone here knows when logitech g25 drivers come for vista?

Wouldn't the XP drivers work? I remember that the XP drivers worked when I used vista before, so I presume it would work again.

nope. profiler doesnt find wheel.

i'm supprized no one from th wingman team has addressed this... have they?

Quote from KiDCoDEa :

nope. profiler doesnt find wheel.

tell this to the people at logitech, because it states on the box "works with vista" and then there are no drivers...

other than that i love this new wheel...
coming from a red momo it is quite a difference - force feedback is stonger and more accurate. the wheel itself is a little thin to my taste. i liked the more sportscarlike wheel of the red momo better, nevertheless the bigger diameter feels better.
the pedals are amazing, logitech did a real overkill on them this time...
little disappointments are the very steep pedals which are a little uncomfortable when sitting on a chair - will fix this with using a race frame, so i will sit a little nearer to the floor. wanted a raceframe for a long time and now i have the perfect excuse for spending another 250€...
as i work at the same desk i play at, the old momo was a breeze to build up and down, only disconnect one wire and remove the wheel frome the table.
with the g25 things are way more complicated, so i will be better of with a raceframe.
as most of you i dislike the fact that there are only two buttons on the wheel, but i work around this by using a paddle as the handbrake when in h-mode and the shifter in seq-mode when using the paddles for gearchange. i drive a lot rbr-rally so i must use different setups.
the shifter is a great new feature - although i think i need driving lessons now to get my new coordination together, because i was leftbraking for the last six or seven years. the biggest problem i have with the shifter is the fifth gear is sometimes hard to find and i end up in third.
another strange thing is that you can preselect a gear and the actual gearchange hapens whenever you hit the clutch pedal - is this a bug? and can this be used as an advance, because to me it seems the gear changes faster this way?
another thing that surprised me, after hearing so much positive comments about it, is the overall noise. the motor noises might be not as loud as the dfp, but the deep frequency of the gears generates a hell of a resonance on my desk. adding the click-clack from the shifter and a clearly audible ring rang from the gas pedal equal a slightly higher noise than my previous red momo. so no more racing in the middle of the night for me anymore i guess...
ups, long post, sorry it is late...

goodnight mo

The drivers on the CD work with Vista, I was definately using my G25 in LFS under Vista a couple of weeks back. I think I had to have it unplugged at boot for the profiler to recognise it though. Can't remeber if I had to use the compatability mode or not.

Quote from molocco :

another strange thing is that you can preselect a gear and the actual gearchange hapens whenever you hit the clutch pedal - is this a bug? and can this be used as an advance, because to me it seems the gear changes faster this way?

This is a LFS feature. At the moment it is a bit strange, but it will probably get better in the next incompatible patch

I bought a G25 last week and I'm still thoroughly testing it. But I have a lock-problem and I want to ask your advice.

I lock the wheel at -lets say- 300 degrees. Both at windows controller properties and at wingman profiler. I try it, I move it left and right and it's working OK, it does lock where it's supposed to be. Then I launch LFS, go to Options->Control and lock the wheel at 300 degrees there too. It works.

I try to race and I'm in the pits, standing still. The wheel is still working perfectly fine, locking at 300 degrees. But when I hit the gas and reach eg. 30+km/h the lock doesnt work anymore!! The wheel can rotate freely up to 900 degrees. Although it has no effect to the game, since at 300deg the virtual wheel locks. So I have to brake the car, reach no more than 5-10 km/h and only then the G25 locks itself back to 300 deg.

The same thing happens with GTR2, race-WTCC, rFactor etc so I dont think its a game issue or settings. Any advice please? I hope it's not a faulty wheel...

try with very low ffb settings in lfs and see if the lock is still there
outside of the game you will e able to turn the wheel through its full 900° range as well
the lock is only the ffb motors stopping you from going any further ... with strong ingame ffb you probably dont feel the difference between the game ffb and the lock

In the control panel options, tick the box to have the default spring for non-ffb games perminantly on, but set the slider to 0%.

The default spring is always turned on when nothing is using the FFB, but I've noticed not every game does disables this, such as LFS (for me anyway).

You will also be having the actual feed back from LFS and notice more dampening without this crappy default spring getting in the way and your lock will feel a lot more solid.

Quote from tade :

I bought a G25 last week and I'm still thoroughly testing it. But I have a lock-problem and I want to ask your advice.

I lock the wheel at -lets say- 300 degrees. Both at windows controller properties and at wingman profiler. I try it, I move it left and right and it's working OK, it does lock where it's supposed to be. Then I launch LFS, go to Options->Control and lock the wheel at 300 degrees there too. It works.

I try to race and I'm in the pits, standing still. The wheel is still working perfectly fine, locking at 300 degrees. But when I hit the gas and reach eg. 30+km/h the lock doesnt work anymore!! The wheel can rotate freely up to 900 degrees. Although it has no effect to the game, since at 300deg the virtual wheel locks. So I have to brake the car, reach no more than 5-10 km/h and only then the G25 locks itself back to 300 deg.

The same thing happens with GTR2, race-WTCC, rFactor etc so I dont think its a game issue or settings. Any advice please? I hope it's not a faulty wheel...

OK, thanks for the advice guys, after extensive testing I am pretty sure its an LFS thing (or a combination of LFS w/Logitech's software).

I am running LFS patch U30 and my config is the following:

Windows Controller Properties

Overall Effects Strength 100
Spring Effects Strength 0
Damper Effect Strength 0
Enable Centering Spring Yes
Centering Spring Strength 0
Report Combined Pedals No
Degrees of Rotation 270-720 (depends)

I am using the Logitech profiler w/the same settings.


As for LFS ingame settings...

Wheel turn (same as windows)
Wheel Turn Compensation 0.01
Force Strength 100
Throttle Brake Axes Separate
Gear Shift Mode Depends


So the issue persists and it happens only in LFS, I eventually fixed my rFactor and GTR2 problems. I have tried everything and the G25 still loses its lock when I speed up, w/an ingame FFB of 100 it locks only up to 10km/h. By decreasing the ingame FFB the "max speed that lock still works" increases, w/a value of FFB 20 the speed increases up to 40-50 km/h.

And if I turn off FFB completely then the wheel locks perfectly well at any given speed. So I am convinced its an LFS issue, I hope I'll find some solution sooner or later (or maybe it'll fix w/a patch...)

Its just strange that I havent seen this problem reported anywhere else. So I am only 90% sure its an LFS bug, I can't be certain.

tade, this is no LFS bug. I just tested it and got the same, but the reason is that the forces generated by LFS were so high that they max out before reaching the set wheel lock. The only thing that "locks" the G25 at lower than 900° rotation is maximum FF to center, but if LFS generates the same maximum forces prior to reaching the "limit", then you will feel no extra resistance when going over it, thus the lock "vanishes".

No LFS bug, and nothing LFS can do about it.

Thanks for the extra quick help! So its a driver issue and there's nothing LFS can do about it. I guess I'll have to live with that, hoping Logitech will fix it sooner or later.