Hello,

Ive been reading these fourms for a while now and i have just had an idea on how to show the speed of the car, The speedo inside the cars on the latest patches are of how fast the wheels are moing but not how fast the car is moving, true? well i thought that maybe in a later patch that a GPS speedometer could be added to the car as an option to those that wanted it. It could be added to the current dashboard clocks or somewhere else like on the windscreen.

I'm having hard time figuring out why you'd want add more dead weight in your race car just to know your exact current speed. Knowing your exact speed gives around zero benefits during racing. Listen to the engine revs and keep your optical sensors glued to the track instead of dashboard.

perhaps he's afraid of getting a speeding ticket

My best excuse (that worked) was that I just bought my car, (true) and I've never driven a nice car before (false). I said all my other cars were beaters and were incapable of breaking the speed limit...lol..he thought it was funny and let me off for doing 120kph in a 90

My Dad was once caught doing 90mph through Hyde Park. Fortunately he was in an Italian registered Lancia at the time (Italian plates, left hand drive, etc etc), so he wound down his window, and said in his finest Italian accent that we was very sorry and the 'e didn't know the rules.

They let him off.

Tristan, that has got to be the best useless post you have made to date.

Quote from tristancliffe :

My Dad was once caught doing 90mph through Hyde Park. Fortunately he was in an Italian registered Lancia at the time (Italian plates, left hand drive, etc etc), so he wound down his window, and said in his finest Italian accent that we was very sorry and the 'e didn't know the rules.

They let him off.

It's amazing how many foreign speeders (and bad parkers) get away with it, the police can't be bothered with the paperwork and our coppers don't have the power to issue a fine requiring immediate payment. After all the admin costs, fines to foreign drivers generally just aren't worth it. (Unless something has changed since all that came to light a while back).

I was a passenger when a friend of mine was pulled over. He got quite a lecture in a 35 mph zone:

"What the F do you think you're doing? Where the F are you going? Where the F are you coming from? You're lucky I'm not some old MF'er who'd be all jacked at having to drive 100 mph to catch you F'ers!"

He left for his car while my bud was sh..ing bricks. He came back and proceeded to explain how these are some of the most dangerous roads in Pennsylvania and how there are way too many accidents on this stretch and too many fatal accidents. Blah blah, sure it's fun when you have a car that can handle it, he was young once as well, blah blah. We left the scene with a warning for too fast for conditions. We were in a 93 VW Scirocco with about 200,000 miles on it and was let off from doing 105 mph in a 35.

Me? I'm not as lucky. I was busted 3 times in a short amount of time doing around 60 mph in a 45 zone. Why was I doing 60? I was keeping up with traffic. I was singled out because I was young (20). I even had people in the other lane passing me when the cop clocked me.

ON TOPIC: If you can't tell your true speed from the way LFS reads the speed from the transmission (just like IRL), then you need to do some setup changes to gain more grip so you don't have as much slipping.

Why do you even need that much accuracy? The only time I ever look at the speedo is to check corner apex and exit speeds as a measure of how well I executed the corner.

Quote from mrodgers :

ON TOPIC: If you can't tell your true speed from the way LFS reads the speed from the transmission (just like IRL), then you need to do some setup changes to gain more grip so you don't have as much slipping.

I don't get it, if it measures speed from the transmission, then why does it display speed (accelerating continously) when the wheels are stopped, and falling through the big gray nothingness (outside of a track)?

Quote from Iron :

I don't get it, if it measures speed from the transmission, then why does it display speed (accelerating continously) when the wheels are stopped, and falling through the big gray nothingness (outside of a track)?

How is being outside of the track even relevant?

Quote from Gunn :

How is being outside of the track even relevant?

Well yes, you can make the same happening by being launched into orbit by one of those red-white striped barriers, but that's not the point. The point is that it seems to me that lfs measures speed gps style, that is, by simply measuring the speed of the chassis as it moves, not through the turning of the transmission or the wheels. Or do i miss something here?

Normal U doesn't read at the transmission, from test patch U30 onward I think this feature came in.

Yes, you miss something.

LFS used to do it GPS style, but since the test patches for U we've had it done via wheel speed.

Maybe you're on an older version (for some reason), and haven't got the most up to date LFS (for whatever reason).

I'm slacking -beaten again!

The GTRs and BF1 should have GPS speedos, FWD GTR measured on the rear wheels, FOX on the front (AFAIK this is done for racing 2WD cars) and road cars as they are.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Yes, you miss something.

LFS used to do it GPS style, but since the test patches for U we've had it done via wheel speed.

Maybe you're on an older version (for some reason), and haven't got the most up to date LFS (for whatever reason).

I'm slacking -beaten again!

IIRC, it came with a test patch (U17? I think)... So if he's still at U, he wouldn't know...

Quote from duke_toaster :

The GTRs and BF1 should have GPS speedos, FWD GTR measured on the rear wheels, FOX on the front (AFAIK this is done for racing 2WD cars) and road cars as they are.

No any speed readout (not that it is usually displayed on racing cars) if not from a transmission speed sensro will be based off a digitalised engine speed vs. gear ratio calculation. You'd never put an extra sensor onto a racing car for information that isn't important, adds weight and resistance (very marginal I know but it's the same with not having an alternator on single seaters etc.).