Any ideas? or has this been asked before, I did search first BTW

Because their orthodontist was over zealous?

i may have misunderstood the meaning of brace in this context, but i guess they've done this to lessen the amount of polys and work on the interior?

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Any ideas? or has this been asked before, I did search first BTW

Screenshot? Maybe it's braced to make it more rigid and improve feedback? :P

LMAO it's not bracing, its the sodding indicator stalks illepall

Hehe, classic.

Have some stars

indicator stalks on a race car.... illepall

I personally think my take on them was better, Devs, please change the indicator stalks to steering column braces please

lol

I too only noticed the stalks recently, didnt know wtf they were

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indicator stalks on a race car.... illepall

He says in the XR, which I take as the XRG and XRT. They are road cars which would have them. As for the XRR, well, you all know that the GTR cars have the same interiors of the road cars and are to be improved upon in the future.

ah, i thought he meant the race cars....

only ONE of them is an indicator stalk, the other is the WIPERS!!

and the XRG/XFG aren't really race cars, are they?

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and the XRG/XFG aren't really race cars, are they?

nope, hence...

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ah, i thought he meant the race cars....

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indicator stalks on a race car.... illepall

The only class of cars that doesn't need indicators is the quickest class on the track. All others want indicators so they can let quicker cars through.
(Of course without the automatic-turn-off mechanism, so you can indicate longer than one turn.)

Vain

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The only class of cars that doesn't need indicators is the quickest class on the track. All others want indicators so they can let quicker cars through.
(Of course without the automatic-turn-off mechanism, so you can indicate over series of turns.)

Vain

theres a difference between "indicators" and "indicator stalks". nearly all touring car and most GTR cars have indicators but they dont have indicator stalks. They use buttons or switches on a control panel instead.

LFS should have an American car with its slush-box gear lever there.

Just kidding. Sorry for the visual! :vomit:

The column shift isn't only American and is actually pretty cool. You can also have manual column shift, now changing gears in that is fun lol

An Australian car would be American if one didn't know any better. Holden is actually my middle name, symbolising the marriage between American and Australian cars.

...but manual in the traditional sense? through the steering column? :scared:

Lots of cars in the 40s and 50s had column shift manual boxes. Some, like the Lancia Aurelia, where very nice to use, and as intuitive as the modern 'normal' tunnel shift.

We had an old Chrysler with a column shift so that's basically American. But there's the Citroen DS that had column shift and I'm pretty sure France isn't in the US

Not sure who used it first though.

The DS had a semi-auto transmission system, not a true manual.

Well there you go, didn't even know about the Lancia and I thought ther DS was a normal manual as well as the semi-auto. That's my lesson for today

Heh, I remember my '89 Toyota Hiace (Most fun I've ever had going sideways in a car... Aah, the memories. ) also had a manual column shift. Was there mostly to prevent passengers in the middle seat from having a seriously uncomfortable ride I assume. :bigeyes2:

My first car, which was BUILT in the UK and SOLD in the UK had a silly column change...it was a 1958 Ford Popular with a 3-speed gearbox!

I also had 2 Ford Zephyrs (a 4 and a 6) and they both had column changes; even if the cables DID get twisted every five damn minutes!

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theres a difference between "indicators" and "indicator stalks". nearly all touring car and most GTR cars have indicators but they dont have indicator stalks. They use buttons or switches on a control panel instead.

You'll find most of them will actually have the production indicator stalks, unless they can't be used for some reason due to modifications to the steering column/driving position. There's no point in creating work for no reason.

First example I could find: http://www.racecarsdirect.com/viewlisting.php?view=4001