Quote from skiingman :

As the Ford link points out, the Nextel Cup cylinder heads are very much for sale, very much in production, and are very likely to be found at a circle track near you. Well, maybe not you, but we've got hundreds of the things.

No, none of the major manufacturers build and sell tube frame racecars to the public.....what does this have to with them all being "the same" eh?

And on another note, if you don't think a small block can be shoved into "real cars" I suggest you get out more. Jeebus, I could more easily list the vehicles I haven't seen a small block chevy in....

Oh, the Monte Carlo is available with a SBC, as is the Impala. And the Charger. No, none of them share anything other than headlights (headlight stickers) but no, none of them are the same.

however, chevy does build the engines and help with the chassis building, along with all of the other manufactures. Toyota actually builds in shop TRD cars and sells them to teams...they are all very unique.

The engine parts? I'm not sure how to PROVE it to him..but yes they are all extremely differnt, you could never interchange parts or anything of the sorts, they all make differnt power in differnt places, they are quite unique.

Quote from Viper93 :

I am ranting in general. I used to like NASCAR until they switched to new managment and brought in Nextel and the "chase for the cup" It doesn't matter how a driver does the first 2/3 of the season as long as they are in the top 10 which IMO is wrong.

That's one of the parts i dont like from NASCAR.

the chase is really something what is kind of "unfair" for a driver who dominates 2/3 of the year.

it might get more interest for the last 10 races then, but its also kind of decrease the weight of the first 2/3. it's like with nba finals. they are much higher in popularity. those who are into basketball will watch every match of their game. the broad mass sticks to the finals...

ah... i wish i could have nascar races here in europe TV. isn't there any internet-TV broadcasting races?

Quote from Fischfix :

the chase is really something what is kind of "unfair" for a driver who dominates 2/3 of the year.

it might get more interest for the last 10 races then, but its also kind of decrease the weight of the first 2/3. it's like with nba finals. they are much higher in popularity. those who are into basketball will watch every match of their game. the broad mass sticks to the finals...

ah... i wish i could have nascar races here in europe TV. isn't there any internet-TV broadcasting races?

ive always thought the winner of the first 2/3 should get somthing for it, seems kinda rude to not give them anything for their accomplishment, even with 2/3 of a schedual its longer than any other major racing series

why not having two champions like beeing "regular season champion" and "chase champion" if both are the same makes a "superchamp". allthough when i think more about that, i find it useless...

Quote from skiingman :

As the Ford link points out, the Nextel Cup cylinder heads are very much for sale, very much in production, and are very likely to be found at a circle track near you. Well, maybe not you, but we've got hundreds of the things.

No, none of the major manufacturers build and sell tube frame racecars to the public.....what does this have to with them all being "the same" eh?

And on another note, if you don't think a small block can be shoved into "real cars" I suggest you get out more. Jeebus, I could more easily list the vehicles I haven't seen a small block chevy in....

Oh, the Monte Carlo is available with a SBC, as is the Impala. And the Charger. No, none of them share anything other than headlights (headlight stickers) but no, none of them are the same.

I think you and Viper93 are both right, because I think you're arguing different things. While Nascar cup cars are certainly not exactly the same, the bear absolutely no resemblence to their production counterparts, which is I think what Viper93 is trying to say. They are all similar in the fact that they are tube frame cars powered by carburated pushrod V8 engines with similar suspension, brakes, and weight. They are most definitely not identical, you need to look at IROC for that

Haha I did not mean they are identical. But there are not any Ford parts underneath that Ford bodywork and they are very similar to the other cars.

Granted other race leagues have the same thing. But NASCAR just puts a pretty bow on it with an extra helping of icecream for your birthday.