Quote from deggis :

I thought that too but camera angle makes it just look stranger than it actually is:
http://www.formule.cz/formule/ ... odely2004/tyrrell-012.jpg

thats pretty clever actually ... if its adjusted to the slip angle the rear tyres peak at it might be a bit quicker than a normal wing

Hmm they make these things look like drag cars..i wonder how effective these HUGE wings and air intakes are?

Chaparral F1 1967
http://www.renderaid.com/img~s ... 3.jpg~o~0~t~cn~w~175.aspx

Toyota: Bienvenido a la F1 (Translation?)
http://external.cache.el-mundo ... oyotaf1/imagenes/1970.jpg

Tyrrell Not sure of the year...
http://www.tyrrell.de/Persoenl ... 00-HistorischeFormel1.htm

Those first two aren't F1 cars, more like CAN-AM

Quote from scoobyrbac :

Hmm they make these things look like drag cars..i wonder how effective these HUGE wings and air intakes are?

Chaparral F1 1967
http://www.renderaid.com/img~s ... 3.jpg~o~0~t~cn~w~175.aspx

Toyota: Bienvenido a la F1 (Translation?)
http://external.cache.el-mundo ... oyotaf1/imagenes/1970.jpg

Tyrrell Not sure of the year...
http://www.tyrrell.de/Persoenl ... 00-HistorischeFormel1.htm

the tyrell, P34, 1976 / 77 iirc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W196

read about that in a huge F1 book i have (its a rundown of every season, with loads of immense pictures). apparently it was immense on the fast circuits, but moss nearly wrecked it at silverstone because he couldnt see where his front wheels were.

i think, this two design"mistakes" should be here too
http://www.derapate.it/img/_formula1-twin-towers.jpg
http://www.motorsm.com/motorsp ... f1/2004_WILLIAMS_TEAM.jpg

the twin towers worked well tbh, its just that the FIA took a hissy about not being able to see properly, even though the drivers said that was bollocks.

the nosecone was legendary though, no idea if it actually worked well or not. apparently not though .

I dint know but what does the 4 front wheels help?

LOL! didnt realise there was soo many! nice stuff, ill try find some..

Btw, anyone ever see the ferraris and i think jordans? :S or stewets in like late 90's with the long long long mirrors? going bout 10000meters into the air? lol..

Quote from scoobyrbac :

I dint know but what does the 4 front wheels help?

The tyres of an open-wheel car account for a significant part of its total aerodynamic drag (something like 50% depending on the car and tyres). Reducing the frontal area of a tyre means that it creates less aerodynamic drag. Unfortunately, decreasing the size of a tyre also reduces the size of its contact patch which means that it produces less grip. So, to produce the same amount of grip as a larger tyre, more small tyres have to be used.

the Tyrell(6 wheels) was a very practical design, it could have done very well. If only they were allowed to continue.

I had heard that despite the fact it has 4 tires in the front it still understeered like hell. I suppose that's partially do to the smaller contact patch, though.

As for the 4WD designs; these were back in the days before power steering. Musta had arms like tree-trunks to drive those beasts!

1997 Williams ultra low drag rear wing in testing.

Quote from amp88 :

1997 Williams ultra low drag rear wing in testing.

Kimi could testify that this won't work.

Quote from ATHome :

http://fotos.iher.net/76bra26v%20Laffite%20Ligier%20JS5.jpg

http://fotos.iher.net/74pau28y%20Elf2.jpg

That's just strange looking

the first looks like a smurf

Wow, I never knew how strange F1 cars were in the 70s and 80s- some truly original designs there.

At least modern F1 cars are stylish...

Stylish? I think not. The new ones would look okay if they had all the winglets and barge boards removed, but even then they are merely ok. The 70s and 80s had some truly nice looking cars, some crazy designs, and some rubbish cars, but every single one had 500% more character than any F1 car of the last decade or so.

Which do you think is cooler? Gilles Villeneuve in a Ferrari 312 or Kimi Raikkonen in a McLaren MP4/22. No contest really...

i have to agree with tristan. every car in this gallery is a lot more stylish than modern F1 cars.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com ... ile=f1.php&fyear=1960


out of interest, that website also has a gallery of 2007 F1 cars, http://www.ultimatecarpage.com ... ile=f1.php&fyear=2000 down the bottom. The red bull looks incredible


Kinda went off topic, sorry.



most brittle wing ive ever seen. looks like a bit of wind would blow it of.

The first SixWheeler!

From Indianaplois 1957, Kraft-Offenhauser KK500G (Pat Clancy Special)

(Between 1950 & 1960, driver @ Indianapolis won point towards the F1 championship, so technically it is a F1 car!)

Quote from DeKo :

out of interest, that website also has a gallery of 2007 F1 cars, http://www.ultimatecarpage.com ... ile=f1.php&fyear=2000 down the bottom. The red bull looks incredible

This website's not much help to me at all, not one picture of Mika Hakkinen, or Mclaren in the 80's and 90's, suspect

Quote from tristancliffe :

Stylish? I think not. The new ones would look okay if they had all the winglets and barge boards removed, but even then they are merely ok. The 70s and 80s had some truly nice looking cars, some crazy designs, and some rubbish cars, but every single one had 500% more character than any F1 car of the last decade or so.

the problem is that f1 has effectively turned into a spec series where all cars look the same with little to no room for aerodynamic innovations

Quote from TiJay :

At least modern F1 cars are stylish...

I think not, there's no question in my mind the Tyrrell 001 is the second most stunning Formula 1 car ever built, looks beautiful but purposeful and sounds gorgeous in the flesh in the way that no other DFV engined car I've ever heard does.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com ... magenum=1&carnum=1034

Of course in my mind there's no question what the best looking car of all time is.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com ... imagenum=9&carnum=118
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com ... imagenum=6&carnum=118
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com ... imagenum=4&carnum=118

Quote from ajp71 :

I think not, there's no question in my mind the Tyrrell 001 is the second most stunning Formula 1 car ever built, looks beautiful but purposeful and sounds gorgeous in the flesh in the way that no other DFP engined car I've ever heard does.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com ... magenum=1&carnum=1034

Of course in my mind there's no question what the best looking car of all time is.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com ... imagenum=9&carnum=118
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com ... imagenum=6&carnum=118
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com ... imagenum=4&carnum=118

The Eagle just looks so damn good, no wonder why I drive it in GPL all the time

Also a nice looking car
http://b.f1-facts.com/ul/a/3471

Personally I prefer these from the thirties.
Although the game was almost crap the "Spirit of Speed 1937", was a nice try. Hopefully mods in LFS will be open before 2037, and then we can create a nice recreation to commemorate the centenary .

No LFS fan can deny the flying sensation in this newer cars without aerodynamics would be also pretty amazing

Some great pics here. I had no idea there ever was a Williams six wheeler.

Quote from Gunn :

Best pic I have of the P34 and a piccy of those funny raised wings.

See the cable going up one of the rear wing poles? I think that might be part of the mechanism for the driver to change the angle of attack on the straights. Banned today of course.

Quote from Shotglass :

they were more than just funny ... actually they were somewhat superior to todays design in the way that the downforce was applied directly to the wheels instead of the cars body

Which was also (one of) the reasons for this:

Quote from Shotglass :

thats pretty clever actually ... if its adjusted to the slip angle the rear tyres peak at it might be a bit quicker than a normal wing

Yeah, that's what I thought. Could maybe also be used to increase yaw stability. But on that particular car I get the impression designer probably just thought it looks cool.