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#1 - keiran
Arses who think they own the road
Don't think the thread title is offensive but if it's classed as one, sorry...

I'll set the scene, I'm driving home from college today, people are just starting to knock off work so the roads are fairly busy. On one of the busy routes there is road works and it's down to one lane of traffic both directions. Technically it's not even a dual carriage way, it's a really wide road with no road markings so there should really be no cars overtaking as that's the wrong side of the road. Especially when cars are parked at the other side of the road it often forces people in the other direction to take avoiding action. There are signs up making you well aware and one big long queue of cars gives you a fair idea something's up. Not to mention the big blue arrow sign pointing to the lane to be in.

So anyway, I'm near the entry of the single lane when I see someone in their Audi A6 coming down, passing probably 30 cars and unlucky for him I'm not into the single lane part yet.

The guy behind me swerves out to make the guy well aware he isn't letting him in and I do the same, but he cheekily passes us. He is now in a position that he is in the way of the traffic coming the other direction. He sticks the front left of his Audi in the gap between me and the car in front. I just looked across and made him well aware I wasn't going to let him in. He continues to edge forward trying to obviously stop me from being able to go forwards without letting him in. I continued to edge slowly forward as the traffic began moving again and so did he, although as I knew he would chicken out. Obviously scared I scratch his paint. Unfortunately the driver following behind who initially tried to stop him wasn't paying attention and moved too late to stop him getting in :/.

Once we are out of this I joined the left lane and he decided to drive along side me slowing the right lane of traffic for a good 20/30 seconds to give all sorts of gestures. Tbh he looked like a right geek (no offence anyone, best way to describe him) that would probably be scared of getting into a brawl (not that I want to) with someone and the gesturing really didn't suit him, I couldn't help but laugh and didn't bother giving him the attention. He decided to continue driving alongside me for a good 20 seconds after this.

What I hate is how he feels he is better than all us who are waiting in the queue. Why he thinks he can skip a 10-15min wait in traffic. If everyone did it, he'd be no better off. What I can't understand, after looking in my mirrors and seeing more do it is why do people let these people cut in. If they didn't these people would never do it but too many people up here anyway don't mind letting you jump the queue.

Now to my next arse. Country road but wide enough for two cars to drive side by side easily and easily capable of 60mph (I'd reckon the Clio could probably do 80 easy along this road, and it handles like jelly) all the way in my 1.2 Clio. I come up behind some guy in a BMW Z4 doing 40mph, unfortunately he is going the same direction I'm going when we re join a main-ish road. It's a straight road and no cars are coming the other direction. So I indicate and pull out to pass, just as I'm getting past him he puts his foot down and goes from 40mph to matching my speed. He put me in a very dodgy situation heading to a junction on the wrong side of the road, had he not sped up I'd have passed him ages ago before reaching here. He forced me to brake real hard and luckily the guy following me realised and made space.

All the way home I had to follow this guy at 50mph in straight lines and 40mph on slight curves in the road because everytime I went to pass him he put his foot down. Everytime I dropped back coming to a corner to get a good run (only a small 1.2!) he'd slow down with me.

Again I can't understand this logic, what's the point in doing that? Is he embarrassed to watch lil old Clio worth a fraction of his BMW drive past? Surely he should be more embarrassed having me following with a bunch of other pissed off drivers trying to pass.

Since I've been going into and out college at early and late times more this block I've noticed this happening to me more and more, nearly every Mon-Wed. One of these days they are going to get me so pissed off I'm going to make sure they hit my car and I get a nice big insurance claim. Especially the arses who tailgate because I've not let them barge in the queue. I often catch them out using the handbrake to brake in slow moving traffic, often stops them tailgating with there poor judgement.

Rant over , so what's everyone else's experiences? I doubt I'm the only one who comes across this sort of person.
#2 - danowat
Think yourself lucky to be in a car, arses on the road when you are on a bike are fun, my favourites are.

1) The idiots who try to "race" you, mate, my bike will do 0-60 in 3.4secs and 0-100 in 7, you are NOT going to beat me, get over it.

2) The idiots, who are normally in BMW,Mercs or VW's (infact ANY german car) that when they see a bike behind pull into the middle of the road, straddling the white line, so you can't get past.

3) The idiots who see a bike behind and then proceed to drive up the grass verge to give you room to pass, all they are really doing is covering you in stones and dirt.

4) The idiots, about 90% of cars drivers in my experiance, who just don't simply see bikes.

The world is full of arse's, it just seems car bring out the worse in people.
#3 - Shotglass
Quote from keiran :I often catch them out using the handbrake to brake in slow moving traffic, often stops them tailgating with there poor judgement.

my tactic againt these is left foot braking ... slightly tap the brake with your left foot to make the light go on and put your right foot down a little more to keep your speed ... they usually dont dare to tailgate ever again

fully agree with you ... my favourite moment was autumn last year
the route i drove daily at the time was an autobahn where they were putting down new tarmac on one side ... took them like 3 month to do so
anyway they put both directions to one side of the road turning 2 lanes + stopping strip into 4 very tight lanes with a limit of 60

overtaking lorries there was an issue for most and ive spent countless hours of driving behind some lane hugger who just wouldnt dare to overtake that damn lorry

one evenning i came up to what must have been the worst driver (female obviously ) ive ever seen
she drove right in the middle of both lanes at 50 and i spent 3-4km of driving behind her flashing my lights like crazy without her even noticing i was there
#4 - BuddhaBing
I was rushing to the hospital this afternoon in my Audi A6 to be with my wife who had gone into labour with our first child. There were some road works along the way and the traffic was down to one lane in both directions. The drivers at the end of the traffic queue graciously waved me through when they saw me gesturing that it was an emergency and I was almost at the head of the queue when some dick in a Clio 1.2L decided to block me. I tried to edge in ahead of him but he was oblivious to my frantic gesturing and I eventually had to slip in behind him. As we made our way slowly through the road works, I called the hospital on my mobile to let them know I was on the way. In the end, I was just a couple of minutes too late to be there for the birth of our first child. If only that bugger in the Clio hadn't blocked me ... aah, I could strangle him!
#5 - Batterypark
Quote from BuddhaBing :I was rushing to the hospital this afternoon in my Audi A6 to be with my wife who had gone into labour with our first child. There were some road works along the way and the traffic was down to one lane in both directions. The drivers at the end of the traffic queue graciously waved me through when they saw me gesturing that it was an emergency and I was almost at the head of the queue when some dick in a Clio 1.2L decided to block me. I tried to edge in ahead of him but he was oblivious to my frantic gesturing and I eventually had to slip in behind him. As we made our way slowly through the road works, I called the hospital on my mobile to let them know I was on the way. In the end, I was just a couple of minutes too late to be there for the birth of our first child. If only that bugger in the Clio hadn't blocked me ... aah, I could strangle him!

Why did you gesture that it was an emergency, when it clearly wasn't one? You really shouldn't drive at all if you can't put aside your emotions when you're behind the wheel.
#6 - nihil
Quote from danowat :Think yourself lucky to be in a car, arses on the road when you are on a bike are fun, my favourites are.

5. People who talk on their mobile whilst driving
#7 - Funnycat
Quote from Batterypark :Why did you gesture that it was an emergency, when it clearly wasn't one? You really shouldn't drive at all if you can't put aside your emotions when you're behind the wheel.

Hmmmmm , I actually think this story is fully or partly fictional and is an answer to 1st post (Audi A6 vs. Clio 1.2) Sorry if I'm wrong
#8 - P5YcHoM4N
The best thing to do with beamer drivers when they do that is to "greet" him on his side of the road, pull along side him, then he they match your speed just pull into his side of the road, £5 says he'll slam on the anchors and let you past.

Quote from Funnycat :Hmmmmm , I actually think this story is fully or partly fictional and is an answer to 1st post (Audi A6 vs. Clio 1.2) Sorry if I'm wrong

You're not, he was taking the piss.
#9 - TiJay
Clearly, as they're both in different countries. But he makes a good point.

If someone wants to pass me, I let them pass because if they're driving like an idiot I don't want them near me and odds are they'll wrap their car round a tree a mile up the road anyways. I can't be bothered to race mostly.
#10 - JTbo
Well, to last one, simple reason is in cars badge, that BMW seem to cause some brain damage as it seem to be quite rare to see BMW that is driven with good manners. Don't know why really, maybe that is car that attracts those with no manners. There are sure few quite normal guys or girls driving such car, but that is just exception that enforces the rule.

I did overtake Z4 once at nice curvy small road as it was afraid of corners, as I did it with some good speed difference (to overtake successfully you need to do it by surprise) he seemed to loose self control as on straights he gained good bit but at corners did leave quite a bit. So we did go until there was intersection and that road did end, main road where it did connect was straight and smooth so there he then overtook me using all revs that thing had and about 3km later he was receiving speeding ticket, wondering why he did not drive stable speed at that smaller road so not so much need to rush at main road that police would be interested, maybe that BMW badge syndrome got him there again

I have met quite many of these bad drivers on roads, really can't understand why it is so hard to be overtaken, if other driver prefers going faster let them, but most annoying are those that overtake you and then slow down at front, typically these can't maintain even stable speed, very annoying as driving becomes bit stressing, also fuel consumption raises heavily, so I often stop at gas station or side of road when I come across this kind of bad driver. After 5-10 minutes there usually is again big chance to travel without worries from such.

Most drivers here seem to be blind to speed limits, they are driving 90kph no matter if limit is 80 or 100, so at 80kph limit they often overtake me and at 100kph limit I overtake them, even I'm driving bit over limit at outside of city limits. At city there are many times better to drive less than limit as there is this correct situation speed that I look more than speed limits really, can't say many understands what correct situation speed is, people don't think too much about their driving.

Sometimes there happens to be then cars that are driving too close to rear bumper, usually I signal that go, road is open, no need to wait better place, use that loud pedal, this however fails mostly so I slow down and if there is not much traffic I may even stop and jump out of car, they often find loud pedal then. Sometimes there is then more traffic so I just stop to bus stop, so much nicer to drive when there is no car so close that lifting my right foot would cause collision.

Also it was not nice to drive once at motorway when there 3 police car did surround me very tightly, they did not order to stop or anything, just drove that way quite long time. Well at least my car could not be hijacked with that kind of safety around

I'm with Batterypark, people that can't put aside their emotions when sitting behind wheel should not be allowed to drive in first place.
#11 - ajp71
I've been driving a week and already encountered a noobend in a Chrysler PT Cruiser squeeze pass me on the one single lane stretch of a dual carriageway and then promptly slam on the brakes and drive slower than I was driving (a 50 full of 'safety camera vans'). I reckon he wasn't trying to be aggressive just he ended up trundling into a 50 at 70 hadn't even realised he was no longer on a dual carriageway and then shat himself when he realised he was in a camera breeding ground.

My other dodgy moment was a bus that was travelling towards me on the other side of the road, there were parked cars but plenty of room to pass he seemed to reckon that he needed to leave a few metres clearance driving needlessly into the middle of the road and making no attempt to slow down.
#12 - ajp71
Quote from JTbo :Well, to last one, simple reason is in cars badge, that BMW seem to cause some brain damage as it seem to be quite rare to see BMW that is driven with good manners.

Try overtaking anything in a driving school car and it is guaranteed to speed up to beyond the speed limit, which is bloody annoying when you're on test and don't have any choice but to pull back in behind.
#13 - ZORER
You made me dissapointed guys. I thought those idiot m.f.'s only existed in istanbul (where i live ) Sad to hear that people getting more and more idiot all over the world...
#14 - sinbad
Quote from ajp71 :
My other dodgy moment was a bus that was travelling towards me on the other side of the road, there were parked cars but plenty of room to pass he seemed to reckon that he needed to leave a few metres clearance driving needlessly into the middle of the road and making no attempt to slow down.

Never expect a bus driver to do anything but simply drive on and totally ignore the rest of the road users.

Naturally he's allowed to, he's in a bus.
#15 - ATC Quicksilver
Well I am just learning to drive and already come across 3 or 4 idiots. First one was a guy who just pulled out RIGHT infront of me, emergency stop time, just because I'm a learner doesn't mean cars can jump out infront of me.

2nd one same thing, guy pulls across 2 lanes blocking them trying to get into a petrol station...again i had to brake pretty damn hard.

3rd one, I was doing 30mph in a 30mph limit, I can't speed I get told off, but this huge 4x4 comes screaming up to the back of me and sits about an inch off my bumper gesturing at me. Now I was very naughty at this point and actually slowed to 20mph until i reached my turn off, I got told off for that

The worst one was when in the car with my dad, Dual carrigeway...we are in the left lane, an Audi is sitting in the right lane just ahead of us going very slowly. He was holding everyone up, so my dad undertook and pulled into his lane. Later down the road suddenly at a turn off the Audi tears up on our right and starts swerving towards our car trying to force us to let him in. After almost running us off the bloody road my dad had to brake heavily to let him in, because there was a car on our left stopping him changing lanes.

Theres just some complete idiots on the roads these days.
#16 - JTbo
Quote from ajp71 :Try overtaking anything in a driving school car and it is guaranteed to speed up to beyond the speed limit, which is bloody annoying when you're on test and don't have any choice but to pull back in behind.

There are ton of those idiots on roads, as I wrote I have encountered them and quite plenty of too, don't know if stopping is allowed when taking driving test, maybe would get even extra points as that is best thing to do if driving becomes uncomfortable because of such drivers.
#17 - The General Lee
/Reads abuse given to BMW drivers...

/Looks out window at 3 Series BMW

But I can joke about it because I'm not a wanker
#18 - keiran
Quote from danowat :*snip*

Yup, I know bikes are even worse. My Dad used to ride bikes, the last one being a Honda Hornet CBR600, if I remember correctly. He ended up selling it to start racing again but has never gotten another bike again to use on the roads because of the many near misses.

I'd like to own a bike at some point but I just wouldn't risk it living where I am at the moment. Not only do you get people who aren't paying a blind bit of notice there are also the ones who like to fill their fuel tanks till they overflow. God knows why when it spills out onto the roads as they corner and makes for some interesting cornering.

One of the roads I have to take in the morning has a bus lane which is in operation during the time so people shouldn't be using it. Most road users abide it but a select few feel too elite... If I see anyone coming down them thats not a buss or taxi, I pull out and stop. If I'm running early for college I let more cars in front of us than there would have been. Oh is it fun to watch their gestures in the rear view mirror.

Serves them right for trying to cut in front of like 20 cars. Wish they'd put one of them cameras there to stop them driving in bus lanes when they shouldn't be. Although saying that some people still drive down those bus lanes till they reach the camera, and more often than not the person in the right lane lets them in! Sometimes during traffic light changes you wont actually move because this person is letting them all in. Kind of defeats the purpose of queing :s.

@BuddhaBing
Haha, was reading that thinking this sounds familar

Quote from Batterypark :Why did you gesture that it was an emergency, when it clearly wasn't one? You really shouldn't drive at all if you can't put aside your emotions when you're behind the wheel.

Yes his story is fictional. He was going the wrong way to get to the hospital for starters
#19 - mrodgers
Quote from keiran :Yes his story is fictional. He was going the wrong way to get to the hospital for starters

ROFLMAO!

I live 20 miles from work out in the country. I live half a mile from the main road which is 55 mph speed limit. 90% of everyone does 70-75'ish though. I drive 70-75'ish on this road. Where I pullout from my road to the main road, there is a bit of a hill crest to my left (I turn right for my work commute). I can see headlights when someone is coming, but it is far enough for me to pull out of even if they are just coming over the crest. Why? Because if I pull out of somewhere and find a car coming, I GO! Drives me crazy when I'm coming down the road and see someone sitting waiting to pull out. Then they just sit and wait with all the time in the world to pull out waiting until I'm pretty close. They pull out and it's like they have a block of wood stuck under the accellerator. FREAKIN GO ALREADY!!!!

Another thing I encounter frequently that drives me crazy is the "one throttle pedal position" driver. I live in northwestern Pennsylvania (US). It is quite hilly around here. Folks leave their foot in one position on the pedal so they are doing 35 mph up the hills, then 70 down the hills. In the mean time, with my old truck, I would need to get a run up the hill or I was downshifting and holding it to the floor too much to make the hill. Next thing I know I'm sitting in 2nd gear, on a 55 mph road doing freakin 25 up the hill.

Like I said, the road is a 55 mph road, but most do around 70. I'm going to work one day running 75 mph and there is someone behind me in a my-p*nis-is-too-small-so-I-have-to-compensate-with-the-size-of-my-truck Ford F350 riding my back bumper. His lights were so bright I could not see past the reflection of myself in the front windshield. What did I do? Hit the straight at about 125 mph and got away from him. Turned off the main road on the short backroad over to work and he's on my bumper again. Can't see a thing. Well, it so happens that I seemed to have a bit of trouble with my right foot at this point in time and couldn't seem to get the car going any faster than 15 mph for the rest of the way. I got to work and he pulled in behind me. That's when I recognized him as a coworker. Had it out with him in the parking lot for a bit over that.

Herki? Where's Herki? See, this thread topic is one reason to have one of those huge SUV's we discussed with a big 'ole bull bar mounted on the front! Push all these idiots off to the side of the road where they belong, LOL.
#20 - Glenn67
Quote from keiran :So anyway, I'm near the entry of the single lane when I see someone in their Audi A6 coming down, passing probably 30 cars and unlucky for him I'm not into the single lane part yet.
The guy behind me swerves out to make the guy well aware he isn't letting him in and I do the same, but he cheekily passes us. He is now in a position that he is in the way of the traffic coming the other direction. He sticks the front left of his Audi in the gap between me and the car in front. I just looked across and made him well aware I wasn't going to let him in. He continues to edge forward trying to obviously stop me from being able to go forwards without letting him in. I continued to edge slowly forward as the traffic began moving again and so did he, although as I knew he would chicken out. Obviously scared I scratch his paint.



The world is full of 'ego driving twats' (I know I used to be one ) but these days I just cruise to and from work always within 5km/hr of speed limit and always letting ego driving twats have room. In that way it is a much more plesant experience

I do 120km per day so driving is relaxation time, not a time to prove something. People that feel the need to show agression on the road are most likely insecure in who they are, and if they don't die from a road crash will from some stress related illness

I do observe with some amusment though that the worst 'ego driving twats' normally are only going relatively short distances to me and for all their aggression will likely only get to were they are going by a minute or two faster than if they just chilled out
#21 - squidhead
Quote from Shotglass :my tactic againt these is left foot braking ... slightly tap the brake with your left foot to make the light go on and put your right foot down a little more to keep your speed ... they usually dont dare to tailgate ever again

I caused a crash that way once - the guy in a Audi coupe was tailgating a freshly bought civic which me and my girlfriend bought...and I was quite scared to get it scratched the first day...so off the traffic lights I took off rapidly (1.6 powaaah yeah! go my little ricemachine! 100-something horses baby LOL)
reached 50 kph, and blipped the brake pedal to make the lights go on...
the guy in the Coupe braked hard...and was happily rearended by something that looked like a Ford Focus...
I guess Focus was tailgating the guy in the Audi, who was tailgating me (how else would they keep up when I almost reached the rev limiter in 1st gear)
so... 2 tailgaters found each other...
But that is something I still wish wouldnt happen, I dont like crashes...and causing them...
#22 - JTbo
Quote from Glenn67 :[/left]

The world is full of 'ego driving twats' (I know I used to be one ) but these days I just cruise to and from work always within 5km/hr of speed limit and always letting ego driving twats have room. In that way it is a much more plesant experience

I do 120km per day so driving is relaxation time, not a time to prove something. People that feel the need to show agression on the road are most likely insecure in who they are, and if they don't die from a road crash will from some stress related illness

I do observe with some amusment though that the worst 'ego driving twats' normally are only going relatively short distances to me and for all their aggression will likely only get to were they are going by a minute or two faster than if they just chilled out

You think like me

It could been that before 1 Million km I did have bit of aggression moments, but spending few years on road have taught quite lot from traffic and what is really important. Anyway have not been very bad any time as serious accident where I have been before started driving, surely left some marks and I don't really have very much of illusion about car safety, box made of paper that is.
#23 - Hyperactive
Quote from JTbo :I did overtake Z4 once at nice curvy small road as it was afraid of corners, as I did it with some good speed difference (to overtake successfully you need to do it by surprise) he seemed to loose self control as on straights he gained good bit

...

Ditto, except it was an Aufi A4 and the speed limit was 100. Anyway, I had catched this Audi (a young bloke, probably a bit younger than me). We were doing about 95 and I didn't feel like going so slow, still had about 300km left. . Anyways, there was a loong straight, no one in sight so I started to accelerate and pulled out with small speed difference. When I was on his side I noticed that the Audi wasn't going backwards anymore. He obviously had problems letting me pass.

Doing about 110 now. 120, 130 140 and finally at 150, finally, he is starting to leave. 160! All the time I looked at him, glancing ahead, asking wtf you are doing with my facial expressions (nothing naughty though ). Finally. Saw him in the mirrors, just a bit more and the pulled on my lane and started to slow down. Dropped to 120 and kept on going. After a while the Audi comes and passes me "with speed". Hope he got the satisfaction he needed. Stopped for a coffee at next petrol station so that I didn't have to see him again... My father has this saying that everyone who owns an Audi is an a**hole. No offense but my experience with audi drivers is 100% the same.

In finnish: "kaikilla Audi-kuskeilla on kusta päässä!"

The right thing to do should have been for me to back off and let him go. The weather was fine, the road was empty with good visibility so I guess...

Driving is so easy and most of the time you never get pissed if you treat everyone like total idiot who knows nothing about nothing.
#24 - Stuart Fleming
hey keiran, just out of interest where are you driving to and from?

I used to have to drive in from Carnoustie to Dundee for college during the week for 9. It was only a 15-18 mile drive but because of the time and mostly due to the fact the A92 was in the middle of the upgrade to a dual carrigeway it used to take an hour at best. On the most part the standard of driving was so poor, just idiots that have no patiance and don't seem to know how to drive in traffic. But the worst thing i'd have to say was ppl are just so rude, its a thing i notice more from living in Glasgow the last few months where on the most part drivers are really curtious, but in Dundee its just not funny.

The same journey takes about 30-40mins at most now thanks to a shiny new dual carrigeway, shame theres a stupid 40mph blanket speed restriciton on the second half of it though.

My dad had a similar experience of a dick trying to cut in to him at a junction, the claypots junction in Dundee for anyone who might know it, the guy basically drove into my dads car and just missed the car behind because he couldn't be bothred waiting another 10mins in the right lane. He didn't stop and my dad plus the driver bhind had to chase him up the road and eventually got him to stop, luckily the guy behind had phoned the police and they were there in minutes. The chicken admitted driving with out care a day before his court case where he was possibly facing dangerous driving. Plus my dads car was an insurance right off, it was an old Audi 80 that was valued at 250bucks and the damage was about 300bucks, he kept the car and the money The idiot hopefully got a nice fine and a few points.
#25 - the_angry_angel
Equally there is a serious problem on the roads with utter cocks who will block you passing - in a perfectly *safe* area, which merges into 1 lane 500m away - because... well **** I don't know the reason, only to go 30 mph under the limit.

When you've done a few hundred miles during the day, all you want to do is get home and you pull upto the traffic lights coming off a duel carriage way - some ****ing cock end who decides to let everyone not pass him is not going to please anyone in my book. Granted some people are utter cocks, passing in inappropriate places, but pulling across to block someone, in a 2 lane zone should be just as bad.
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