Hi...i've been away from here for aaages but thought i'd come back to say this...


You've all seen the Honda F1 teams new car and marketing thing right..?
http://www.myearthdream.com/#root


To sum it up, this year the team has no on car sponsors, the sponsors pay to use the image of the car in their own advertising and to be part of Honda's eco push.


I saw a few threads about sponsorship a while back...but i think this could be a real opportunity for LFS.


I was thinking, LFS could sponsor HondaF1racing this year. With the using of the image thing, it might be possible to get Honda's earth car in the game. And also have LFS listed as one of the partners in the new scheme.


As the sponsors dont go on the car...Honda can have hundreds of different sponsors, meaning the cost shouldnt be as high (hopefully).

In return, Honda would be getting their Eco message to LFS's userbase. This group is probably one of the most energy thirsty of all! LFS could also maybe give the Honda message too. This may seem silly but maybe when you exit LFS it reminds you to turn your pc off at the wall or something.


To summerise:


LFS sponsors Honda's earth car.

LFS gets: Hopefully the earth car in the game. And the exposure that goes with sponsoring an F1 team.


Honda gets: Its message out to LFS's userbase.


maybe a wacky idea but i dont think its too impossible

But the earth car looks rediculous...

itll stand out i guess hehe

Err...no, it should be the other way around. We don't need Honda's message, people out there need to find LFS.
And besides, we already have an F1 car, what you need two for?

In all honesty we already have an F1 car.

And if it looks rediculous or not is an opinion, not a fact.

leaving opinions on its looks aside (i think it looks good anyway)


it could bring benefits for Honda and LFS.


Honda want to spread the message of global warming (and sell a few cars in the process no doubt). Putting their car in LFS is gona get the message out to hundreds of racers every day.

LFS having an up to date F1 car is always going to be good for business. Another one wont hurt anyone

When Honda start making RWD cars again maybe I'll look their way. Currently I couldn't care less if they went down the gurgler.

ok, it was just an idea...

I know Honda are looking to sell cars, just that with their latest plan to do this its possible LFS could get in on it and get a lot of benefit

Quote from Vain :

One thing to learn:
Honda doesn't have an enviroment-program running because they want to save the planet, but because it earns them money.
There's a big difference between saving the planet and trying to sell as many cars as possible in the least amount of time with the highest achievable profit.

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Slightly OT: In the end does it really matter if you do it for the money if the effect to the environment is positive? After all, there is no organization that can share more money that it has got. Money needs to come somewhere and go somewhere, usually the latter tends to be smaller, for a reason. As an F1 company their main purpose is to race F1 cars, secondly be the Honda's F1 team. It is not that they make so much money out of F1 anyways

Quote from Vain :

@Hyperactive: Funnily you personally cut off the part that explains why it matters in this case.

Vain

My post was more of commenting the environment saving thing in general, not the possible sponsor deal between LFS and Honda F1 nor any environmental aspects of it. That's why I cut out the "explaining" part because my comment had nothing to with that

Basically I am posting and OT post to explain my OT post

I think this is not a very realistic suggestion...

Quote from deggis :

I think this is not a very realistic suggestion...

Perhaps, but I think the sentiment was well-intended.

Quote from Vain :

So you are asking wether it matters wether the intention behind enviromental programs is economical or not in general?
Well, it does, because no sane person would save the planet for any other reason.
Enviromental politics e.g. is nothing different than enforcing laws that make enviroment-friendly products profitable. Tax on fuel -> the market demands fuel efficient vehicles -> someone gets rich selling fuel efficient vehicles.
So, in a sense the intention matters, because there can only be one intention behind successfully saving the enviroment: Money.

Vain

Only, if you look at corporations. There are quite a many organizations and individuals who are to save the environment without actually being driven by money as their main objective. Governments, on the other hand, should enforce laws and procedures with a goal for less pollution&etc in mind. If there was a law to ban all pterol powered cars there qould be always someone welling cars that use something else as their powersource.

Of course it is the trend of today to be natural friendly, but as you said, and as we all know, the single reason for corporations to get more eco friendly is money It still doesn't mean that everybody acts this way, being solely driven by money. By "in general" I mean pretty much everyone as individuals. And money can be used to force people to do environmentally good things.

Heh, I don't want this to sound like a lecture, basically we agree, I just wanted to add that "all" includes also individual humans and some part are ready to pay more/consume less for better environment

EDIT: Just to make a point: The honda F1 team said that just by turning off the lights and computers their electricity bills are few percent smaller than they used to be. Does it really matter if they aren't 100% "morally" honest if they still consume less as result of it? Just because it is a PR trick doesn't mean that something good can come out of it

just sounds like al gore's marketing trick about global warming to be honest (all he wants is to look good and get re-elected)

Hahahahaha, nice idea, without providing contacts, with the suggestion of a small dev team to pay money to honda etc. etc.... just rethink your idea again pls....

Quote from Psymonhilly :

....al gore's marketing trick about global warming.......

I say, he pulled off quite a trick then.

I wonder how he got the weather to break all those ridiculous records and how he got all those hurricanes and so on to occur.

You must have noticed the climate is changing? Meteorological studies show that the weather keeps on going into extremes.

He may want to be re-elected, but the warming is real, mate.

never said it wasnt

LFS is environmentally friendly compared to real motorsports anyway, its not as if we're burning tonnes and tonnes of carbon dioxide when we're racing, okay we're using electricity, but its not half as damaging to the environment as driving a car around a track at high speeds!! Besides, my computer would be on anyways, so I might as well use it for a good purpose

Quote from Psymonhilly :

never said it wasnt

Heh, yeah I kinda misread that a bit..

But I do honestly think he's not doing it to be re-elected.

Just my 2 cents, I saw a speech he did here in Holland and he was well informed, he did his homework. He seemed very sincere. Why would he come here and do all that (not just here, but all over the world)

The american voter surely doesn't care about a little place like Holland. Or where ever..

I know, not the exact right place for this but just a comment on global warming:

1. CLIMATE is a 30year average of WEATHER
2. only JUST 30years ago the science guys claimed we were in a global cooling trend, that means the global CLIMATE has changed in one 30year period?
3. even a 30year average is a miniscule timeframe on the global/solar timescale...as our planet moves through the milky way, we move through solar dust clouds, these dust clouds partly obscure the sun, and the result is frozen polar regions..we are in a dust cloud now, as we move out of it the earth will warm up to the point that the polar ice caps will melt and the water level will rise and more fresh water wil enter the oceans and the gulf stream will change - it's the planetary way
4. there was a DRASTIC temperature jump in the 1920's, about 1/2 of the total reported global warming reported recently...why? Because in the 20's the USA and UK got together and changed the methodology for measuring temperature...before the 20's a bucket of water on the deck of a ship had a thermometer placed in it, in the 20's they took the same bucket of water and took it's temperature in the engine room of the same ships...I'd bet it's a little warmer there
5. cattle produce far more harmful methane gas/year than any city
6. temperature readings are taken in large metropolitan areas, they should also be taken in remote areas as well and then the mean number reported

Not to bad mouth mother nature but it might be time to do my own research and think for myself, there's at least 2 sides to every story and there are a lot of science guys who count on the global warming report for their livelyhood listen to these:

60sec.: http://www.640toronto.com/stat ... 62813&jor=62813#video

60sec.: http://www.640toronto.com/stat ... 64709&jor=64709#video

interview with David Suzuki: http://www.640toronto.com/john ... 60672&jor=60672#video

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! H.J. Simpson

Quote from KSheppard :

Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true! H.J. Simpson

Ha Ha, a quote from one Homer Jay Simpson, you REALLY are doing your credibility no end of good lol .

But you are right, in the true scale of things the planetary climate has been an ongoing varied and changing anomaly. As has been written in manys an academical journal, in fact it has even been noted that the present gulf stream has been going for what is thought to be a record breaking amount of time, IIRC it usually runs for about 5,000 years or so, but at present it has run consistenly for about 15,000 years, which has helped to keep norhtern and western Europe in its temperate climate for so long. But as I said, I think that it doesn't usually flow this long, which might mean that we would reach ice age type conditions in winter, but it is unknown what usually causes the flow to stop, it could be that as KSheppard says, too much fresh water has got into the sea water and thus the convayor belt is shut down!!