Question about FOX cockpit. While looking through screen shots on the main set there is pictures of a different FOX cockpit that looked more realistic to me. With a fuel and temp gages. What happened to this version? They are on screen shot pages five and six.

How on the FOX do you check fuel or temp? (Been wondering this for a while)

The one we currently have was introduced in april last year.
I think the new one is much better though.

How do you check fuel and temp with the newer one?

1. There is no oil/water temperature in LFS

2. On the dash you see a line with "Fuel" and two numbers. The first one tells you how many litres of fuel you still have, the second one how many laps (uppercase L) you can still go, calculated from the average fuel usage so far.

In the example below I have 7.1 litres of fuel left, which would be sufficient for 15.1 laps.

(Slaps forehead) Never mind. I have even used those gages don't know where my mind went.

Haha, we all have moments of "Intellectual Flatulence."

Getting the new fox dashboard was like a receiving a great christmas present! There are a few other dash boards that could do with an overhaul. The UF1 dash and wing mirrors need the treatment.

Quote from AndroidXP :

There is no oil/water temperature in LFS

Since there is no oil/water temps in LFS, then what are the chances of engine failure during a race? Is there a way to run the engine too hot during a race to the point of failure?

Nope, not yet implemented. If you have the fuel and tyres, you can run for as long as you want. The only damage the engine can take is from over revving, but you have to be very abusive with the flatshifting/fast downshifting over a long time to notice it.

E: Also "chances" is the wrong word, as I don't think purely random failures will ever be implemented. Once we get failures, they will always have a direct or indirect simulated cause.

Thanks for the quick reply.

still waiting for the water temperature gauge to start working so i can join the oval servers and point and laugh at everyone stopped at the side of the track with smoke barrelling out of their engine bays

(and i was expecting it to come out when S2 was released my guess was quite off i guess)

Depends on what you define as "S2 release"

.... i never thought of it that way lol

i guess when they said release... wasn't the "release" i was referring to

Quote from XCNuse :

.... i never thought of it that way lol

i guess when they said release... wasn't the "release" i was referring to

Yeah I was expecting it in the last imcomp patch actually. Doesn't seem Scavier Style to leave a non-functional gauge on the cars! I kind of thought brake heat/wear would be "easy" :hide: to implement as well.

Quote from Ball Bearing Turbo :

Yeah I was expecting it in the last imcomp patch actually. Doesn't seem Scavier Style to leave a non-functional gauge on the cars! I kind of thought brake heat/wear would be "easy" :hide: to implement as well.

There's always the next incompatible patch

edit. Just thought that it could be that we didn't get the temperature gauges because for the temperatures to work like I would think Scawen would them like to, there should be a changing air temperature...and that could make things complicated, of course it could be left out for now.

Good point. That's the thing, something may seem relatively simple but the way he works, it would rely on so many other parts of the sim that even though it's easy to conceptualize, it's not necessarily simple to actually implement. Probably the same reasons for the brakes as well, makes sense.

Yeah, the List Scawen has must be long, very long. Could imagine the temperatures would need some work with the aero-model, which is wip itself, all those cooling vents for brakes...and...where's that smiley...

Think about it, we are setting the brake torque directly, which takes the force on the disc, the radius of the disc, and the coefficient of friction into account. Thus either the way we setup the brakes will have to change to a lower component, i.e. the radius and coefficient if fixed per car, we actually set number of calipers or something, or we set the maximum brake torque at a particular temperature and LFS adjusts from there.

That would be similar to tyres at the moment, where we set the cold pressure and they warm up. Which does seem odd, since the tyres are actually pre-heated in the garage but the air in them is not, the same as when you leave the pits.

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Which does seem odd, since the tyres are actually pre-heated in the garage but the air in them is not, the same as when you leave the pits.

Note sure what you mean - when I pit out the air area and the "pads" are all "blue"; the same temperature...

Quote from Ball Bearing Turbo :

Note sure what you mean - when I pit out the air area and the "pads" are all "blue"; the same temperature...

But the tyres are pre-warmed. If you pit out and just park it you will notice the tyre temps dropping.

Quote from Ball Bearing Turbo :

Note sure what you mean - when I pit out the air area and the "pads" are all "blue"; the same temperature...

The colour is not an absolute measurement of tyre temperature, it's always relative to the optimal grip temp (green). Yes, when you pit out they are all blue, but on a XFG blue might mean 40°C, while in the FZR 70°C or so. Don't let yourself be fooled by that, they are all pre-heated (also the air within them).

Quote from AndroidXP :

The colour is not an absolute measurement of tyre temperature, it's always relative to the optimal grip temp (green). Yes, when you pit out they are all blue, but on a XFG blue might mean 40°C, while in the FZR 70°C or so. Don't let yourself be fooled by that, they are all pre-heated (also the air within them).

I understand that, my point was that they were the same temperature (which I couldn't precisely recall, so I just noted that the pads were the same color, since the precise temp was irrelevant)

I thought Bob said the air was not preheated but the pads were. *goes to check

The air is also preheated, because it follows the same colour coding as the pads. If the air wasn't preheated, it would be black or very dark blue on race start.

That's what I said!

I might have possibly been wrong in my assumption.

I think I need to sit down... wait, I am already. Well, that's ok then.