The T-shirts are still coming, give it time.
Right, back on topic...
If we were to put this project together and have a website for each track we have to decide what info would all need to go on there if the devs don't have any future plans themselves for the track domains.
This is what i have in mind: (using Blackwood as an example)
I would have:
General track info section in which you would find information about Blackwood, its location, maybe design inspirations (comment from the devs) where they got the idea for Blackwood layout and the track name. Atrack history section would have to be there also with maybe few screenshots of Blackwood in its S1 days when it looked a lot different before the 2005 refurbishment of the track, it is also the oldest track in LFS not sure if it is but didnt it appear in the test demos?
I would also include a track layout map nicely designed which would have the corners of Blackwood named (community would decide on names) with average corner speeds and possibly even gear numbers too at each particular corner. You could then also have each section of the track clickable which would then stream a video or you could download a video made by the community of how to drive that particular section concentrating on turn in, gear , approach speed, brakes etc...
This whole section could fall under the drivers guide section of each website. There could also be screenshots labeled and narrated with arrows lines, braking points to show how to take the corner if video isn't enough.
Driver Guide: Some detailed guides, videos, screenshots of the corners where information about approach lines, speeds, brake points for each different car, and so on. Basically a good section for newbs and general LFS'ers. I would also add a short guide on how you need to setup a car for this track, does the track need a soft setup? hard setup? is it hard on tires? to some degree some of these things rely on individual driving style but basics could be mentioned.
Events: I would also have an events section where key events are listed that are coming up with links maybe to the even itself that public could apply to. This section I think would be a bit tricky to run though as there is just too much going on in LFS but maybe we could organize some races that we could advertise there. There could also be links to leagues and races may be recorded and spectated. What STCC are doing is great!
Photos: Then would come an Image section of various races that have taken place at Blackwood from different series and car classes with some nice screenshots (clear sky/dusk setting) and maybe even serious accidents.
Lap Records: A world record section with the best time driven in each car class which could synch with LFS world?? or could be updated manually but people could check out the latest laptimes on that particular track ( i know lfs worlds shows this)
Links: A links section to the other LFS circuits and all other important LFS websites.
RallyX section: similar stuff to the above but only to do with rallyx.
Downloads: Maybe a download section where users could grab texture updates (best updates available as decided on by the community or devs)? desktop backgrounds of Blackwood and other stuff.
I know it may be a totaly pointless idea which involves quite a bit of work but I would like to know what you think about the whole thing with maybe suggestions what else could be added to the websites.
[edit] If we could come up with some sort of a plan, then we could pitch it to the devs to see what they think and whether they have any current plans themselves, or maybe if they started some work which then got abandoned maybe we could take it from there?
mad
[edit] attached image! Messed around a little and came up with a rough design for the Blackwood site, thought i'd share it with the world... lol Blackwood being the oldest public track i thought it should look a bit historic
If we were to put this project together and have a website for each track we have to decide what info would all need to go on there if the devs don't have any future plans themselves for the track domains.
This is what i have in mind: (using Blackwood as an example)
I would have:
General track info section in which you would find information about Blackwood, its location, maybe design inspirations (comment from the devs) where they got the idea for Blackwood layout and the track name. Atrack history section would have to be there also with maybe few screenshots of Blackwood in its S1 days when it looked a lot different before the 2005 refurbishment of the track, it is also the oldest track in LFS not sure if it is but didnt it appear in the test demos?
I would also include a track layout map nicely designed which would have the corners of Blackwood named (community would decide on names) with average corner speeds and possibly even gear numbers too at each particular corner. You could then also have each section of the track clickable which would then stream a video or you could download a video made by the community of how to drive that particular section concentrating on turn in, gear , approach speed, brakes etc...
This whole section could fall under the drivers guide section of each website. There could also be screenshots labeled and narrated with arrows lines, braking points to show how to take the corner if video isn't enough.
Driver Guide: Some detailed guides, videos, screenshots of the corners where information about approach lines, speeds, brake points for each different car, and so on. Basically a good section for newbs and general LFS'ers. I would also add a short guide on how you need to setup a car for this track, does the track need a soft setup? hard setup? is it hard on tires? to some degree some of these things rely on individual driving style but basics could be mentioned.
Events: I would also have an events section where key events are listed that are coming up with links maybe to the even itself that public could apply to. This section I think would be a bit tricky to run though as there is just too much going on in LFS but maybe we could organize some races that we could advertise there. There could also be links to leagues and races may be recorded and spectated. What STCC are doing is great!
Photos: Then would come an Image section of various races that have taken place at Blackwood from different series and car classes with some nice screenshots (clear sky/dusk setting) and maybe even serious accidents.
Lap Records: A world record section with the best time driven in each car class which could synch with LFS world?? or could be updated manually but people could check out the latest laptimes on that particular track ( i know lfs worlds shows this)
Links: A links section to the other LFS circuits and all other important LFS websites.
RallyX section: similar stuff to the above but only to do with rallyx.
Downloads: Maybe a download section where users could grab texture updates (best updates available as decided on by the community or devs)? desktop backgrounds of Blackwood and other stuff.
I know it may be a totaly pointless idea which involves quite a bit of work but I would like to know what you think about the whole thing with maybe suggestions what else could be added to the websites.
[edit] If we could come up with some sort of a plan, then we could pitch it to the devs to see what they think and whether they have any current plans themselves, or maybe if they started some work which then got abandoned maybe we could take it from there?
mad
[edit] attached image! Messed around a little and came up with a rough design for the Blackwood site, thought i'd share it with the world... lol Blackwood being the oldest public track i thought it should look a bit historic
Not bad at all, now all we have to do is find out if the devs had any plans for the domain names
no we don't, otherwise we'd have kept them
The reason why they were dropped : all the above ideas are nice, but when they are implemented, people look at the websites once or twice and then no more. So to what end are they _really_ interesting, beyond a 'looks nice' impression?
The only thing that could make it interesting is if there is dynamic info / text to be found that's also relevant. Like madman already said, this could be comprised of events info and lap data to start with. But events are not categorised by track - they are categorised by event. What I mean by that is, it is not that simple to implement. For example we can't just copy the events calendar from the forum here, so all events will have to be double-reported, by the people who organise them. And they need to report separate events in their respective website. Ie. more work for them -> generally not good.
I'm not trying to diss anyone or any idea here, but I think many people think too simplified when it comes to this 'sub-sites' subject. They only work if they're kept interesting and that's where the problem lies.
The reason why they were dropped : all the above ideas are nice, but when they are implemented, people look at the websites once or twice and then no more. So to what end are they _really_ interesting, beyond a 'looks nice' impression?
The only thing that could make it interesting is if there is dynamic info / text to be found that's also relevant. Like madman already said, this could be comprised of events info and lap data to start with. But events are not categorised by track - they are categorised by event. What I mean by that is, it is not that simple to implement. For example we can't just copy the events calendar from the forum here, so all events will have to be double-reported, by the people who organise them. And they need to report separate events in their respective website. Ie. more work for them -> generally not good.
I'm not trying to diss anyone or any idea here, but I think many people think too simplified when it comes to this 'sub-sites' subject. They only work if they're kept interesting and that's where the problem lies.
Practicalities aside though, (
) - looks great Madman! 
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) - looks great Madman! .Yeah, I agree that unless people would make some use of it, it is an expensive project to run just because it looks interesting.
Ahh well, there goes the idea, *flushes toilet* maybe ill just make a fansite to Blackwood then as a point of interest only.
mad
Yes, do that Madman_CZ.... the best and most informative sites come from the community . You are better off making your own site 
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. You are better off making your own site .please please make a site
heh.. just went to see if the blackwoodcircuit.co.uk domain was still available and what do you know, ITS TAKEN! bought on 19th of march (yesterday). That is quite annoying as when this thread started it was still available...
*flushes toilet for the second time*
either that is coincidence or someone from this forum regstered it...
*flushes toilet for the second time*
either that is coincidence or someone from this forum regstered it...
lol bummer! Madman, ima PM you something
PM sent
Hmm, sounds a bit suspiscious to me, but since you have PM'd someone I guess you know who did it? Funny how it was free until just after this thread was started, and in fact as soon as you thought about doing your site, oh well, better keep the conspiracy theory thoughts out of my head lol
No I didn't buy that domain FYI lol
It's all Madman's project mostly, I'm just telling him something that might help
lolIt's all Madman's project mostly, I'm just telling him something that might help
Just to clear it up, it wasn't Tweaker, I am not bothered who it was really, they can enjoy and have fun with the domain. I have thought about this project with Tweakers help and have come to slightly different conclusions and direction in which I want to take it so I don't need that domain any more
so it wont become just something interesting but something useful
mad
Hey, no probs, I wasn't getting at you, honestly
. I didn't realise he had pm'd you, sorry about the accusations, lol.Thats cool, I hope you have sucsess with the project, and I look forward to seing it come to fruition
What????!??!??!??!
We will be waiting forever for it to be finished!
What is finished anyway? S2 Final? S3? S4? We could go on forever.
The "finished" LFS will be S3.
But why do you want it to be finished? That would mean no more updates and improvements. Im happy to play a game which is already very good and will still get better in the future because it is not yet finished. I dont want that to stop.
But why do you want it to be finished? That would mean no more updates and improvements. Im happy to play a game which is already very good and will still get better in the future because it is not yet finished. I dont want that to stop.
I agree!! If you play the likes of NFS or any other generic arcade/sim racing game, you will nearly always be expected to pay for updates, usually at a premium price, but we are getting free updates, and are watching the sim evolve like a living, breathing being.
I personally don't want it to stop at S3, it would mean that the devs think that it is complete, and I would almost nearly suspect that they themselves wouldn't be 100% happy with the final product, there will always be something else that they would like to improve!
But then I'm just supposing, I have no proof of that I don't want it to stop either, but it has to stop somewhere right? True there will always be stuff to add, but then the devs would be doing this until they go to retirement homes
Plus we would have people complaining that £180 is way too much money for LFS S15
:ices_rofl
Yeah I suppose folks might get a bit pissed off having to pay so much for the full thing!!
But I suppose it could nearly be like a license, pay for the bits you can affoard and build up your experience along the way
I just wonder what the devs have lined up for their next project?
Oh? I hope you have big plans for it, can't wait to see whats coming
White letters are really mean...
Hee hee. If I did buy it or any of the others, I would sell it back to Scavier for the price I paid; I just want to buy the domains so they do not get bastardized.
why it s still not ready? 
after 1 year
after 1 yearhow much would it cost to buy a domain?
www.blackwoodcircuit.com
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