Mahlzeit.....

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...so I'm just left with complaining about such things...

Totally fine with me as long as the complaints are reasonable.....there is the difference.....

Your complaints - Mostly reasonable.....

Delerue complaints - NO COMMENT.....

Maybe it's not so much about the 'content' but about the 'form'.....His way of presenting his thought - even if he has some valid points - is just far off

CU, Sebastian

PS: I think I should stop spamming this thread

PPS: I LUV THAT SMILEY



Edit - @Nick_II - I can ensure you that some of the worst 'fanboys' of LFS are - at the same time - the most heated critics.....just as KiD said in his post.....far from telling the Dev that 'LFS is marvelous and everything is perfect'

wow KiDCoDEa, making more friends are we?

at least this time he's directing it in the right direction

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That's like the old reply of "how many games do you enjoy as much as LFS??"
That's really a fanboyish arguement. What if LFS is not my way of life and I do not enjoy it more than any other game or sim? What if I don't spend more than 2 or 3 hours a week at most playing LFS (just the time for some races in the weekend)? You can't use that arguement. Here in Canada, LFS costs 83% of a full game for a 66% finished product: FACT.

And here in NZ LFS S1 + S2 cost 60% of a full game Fact. Also full games in NZ, UK etc cost far more than those in USA. This is how exchange rates and differences in living costs costs work. CD's in the USA for example are 50% the price of CD's in the UK. I could go on but wont. This is why console companies have tried to region lock everything for years to stop grey imports.

LFS is created in the UK and hence priced in that currency. This is much better than the rFactor farce where you look at the price on the site but when you come to pay the price can jump a huge amount depending on how you pay and in what currency. If they had to manage all this crap it would probably put the price up to cover the extra overheads.

Some countries lose out and others gain, this is how the world works.

Quote from Nick_ll :

And you can't ask me how many games will be as complete as LFS WILL BE when it reaches S3 because you don't know. There are titles like NetKar Pro and First Racing (maybe even GP Lengends if a miracle happens) that might get released in the meantime, and then you don't know what will happen with LFS. I personally have absolutely no faith at all in the sounds in LFS getting any improvement at all because I don't remember any reply of the devs saying there will be work on it. What I do remember tho is that a poll on RSC showed that like 50% of those who voted thought the sounds needed work, and when 50% of your userbase think something is wrong with your product, as a business you're supposed to consider the problem very seriously and move it at the top of your to-do list. Not respond to the fanboys demands. The fanboys will say what is released is awesome anyways, no matter what is done. You don't need to gain those customers they are already hooked and don't plan to move. What you want is to get more customers, so on that note, the language patches were a good move.
Then I will agree you can ignore the complaints of some (like Delerue) about the Force Feedback. That's just a matter of how things are simulated and there are no "effects" in LFS. Decision taken. BUT, the sounds need improvement ASAP and not in a future patch somewhere eventually. It is THE weakest point of LFS IMO and I know I'm not alone thinking this. Noone asks to scrap what's been done and go with samples, but dammit, add gearshift sounds, differential sounds, brake hiss, backfire and ambient sounds! It's important for the immersion feeling of LFS. When that's done there will never be other complaints or bad reviews about sounds.

There might have been a poll on RSC with that sort of percentages but what was the question. "Do you think the sound needs more work?". Most would agree it does. If the question was "Would you prefer a sound, graphics or physics update?" I would argue that you would not get the 50% say sound. Its very easy to quote stats out of context.

Quote from Woz :

Some countries lose out and others gain, this is how the world works.

well we know that happen, unfortunally for those who lives in a 3rd world country certanly paid a LOT more than most of the people, so i think that the fact that some people pay more than other shouldnt be ignored when we talk about it, as for some people, 12 quid is 4, 5 times in their money.

Quote from Nick_ll :

oh and no I won't form any union with him. He's got valid points in terms that LFS can be improved and I indeed don't like fanboys, but I don't like them because they always say everything is marvelous and therefore are not constructive. Delerue isn't constructive either in his criticism, just the other way around. Fanboys say LFS is marvelous and everything is perfect, Delerue says LFS sucks and everything is crap; neither are constructive and will make LFS better by any means.

I never said that. It seems that you made the same mistake that almost every one here: you don't read what I say. See:

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Look, I like the game, and think it has a lot of potential things, but I can't deny there's still a lot to be done. And things that had to be done a long time ago; that's the main problem. [source: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=38029#post38029]

We're at the same team, man. I agree with you in almost everything that you said. We like the game, but think that there's a lot of things to be done, and must of those things must be done as fast as possible. So, take it easy.

You have no business even suggesting improvements for a game that you're enjoying but haven't paid for. You suck.

dude dont even wast ur time on him, not worth.....

so bored ... let's do something, like closing this thread.

Quote from Victor :

so bored ... let's do something, like closing this thread.

Vic, can anyone else just reply by clicking quote like this ?
Or is it because of my special status ?

Sorry for going on in a closed thread, but i was just wondering.