Hey guys, i have been playing the demo for awhile, going on servers trying to drift and i was wondering if the setup for the cars suspension, tyres, brakes, etc. help drifting at all. If it does please help me do the setup cause i dont really understand it at all X_X

All help will be helpful, Thanks for your time

second time i post this set today
take this, its easy to drift with it

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second time i post this set today
take this, its easy to drift with it

Thanks ^^, but uhhh where do i put this?

lfs/data/settings

ask some1 online for 1

the main part is suspension (i will try to make a nice long guide so that i dont have to be bored :razz

suspension has a few setup areas that can make and brake a set. the first is ride height, this is not important until the end of the suspension tuning. stiffness, the stiffer the spring the more oversteer there generally is, so why not tighten up the rear all the way? because in drifting you need control too. so you should have the rear springs generally about 3/4 of the way to the right, and about 1/3 to 1/2 in the front. then you should come back and tweak it as needed.
then there is damping. this is how much resistance to bounce it has, you should drop your car and ajust it so there is the fall compress and depress and stops there, both for front and rear. it also affects fine tuning for drifts. so if you are understeering too much you should have a little less dampening and vice versa. (that goes for grip too)
sway bars. these do not do much in drifting as far as i know, so i just have the front more then the rear by a little and keep it around 1/4 sway bar
ride height. you should drop your car and have it low enough so it just barely looks like it is bottoming out.

drivetrain:
clutches. to keep it simple enough, the locked diff is very easy to drift but hard to drive, open diff is oppisite, clutch just puts force on having the wheels not spin at different speeds, and viscous depends on the speed of the wheels.
i tend to like clutch at a pretty high locking, moterate coast (or whatever it is called), and kinda high force.
viscous at moderate force, and stay away from open.
for gearing keep it how it was, and lower the final (to the right) a little bit so you can keep the rpms up. (have it so it maxes out at the fastest part of the track)

tires:
the type of tire really doesnt matter too much, but i like to stick to normal tires.
first of all you should put your front camber at -2.5 degrees, and your rear at about -.5 to -1.25.
the tire pressure for the front should stay around 30 psi, and in the rear inflate them a lot so they dont get too hot too fast.

passengers:
the amount of passengers doesnt matter too much, but if you want perfect balance put someone in the passenger seat.

hope i helped

Quote from Neoman15M :

I would like to add something to logitekg25's suggestion. The anti roll really affects how your car behaves. Softening it would give you more body roll but more grip. Hardening it would liven (e.g. the rear suspension) the rear. In words, harder anti roll in the rear means more slide angle, but the front also needs to be hardened to prevent you from spinning.

I am a die hard lock diff fan so my opinion is not accurate.....

Hmm. Gear ratios. Normally a drift set should have a lower than default final drive, and the 3,4,5,6 gears should be closer. This is to give you more revs (and also more power) to play with when drifting.

Brake balance. I advise you to leave it as normal. Once you get more familiar with getting sideways, try to tune the brake balance to be more rear-biased. You would then be able to brake and slide into a corner.

just another opinion

I would like to add something to logitekg25's suggestion. The anti roll really affects how your car behaves. Softening it would give you more body roll but more grip. Hardening it would liven (e.g. the rear suspension) the rear. In words, harder anti roll in the rear means more slide angle, but the front also needs to be hardened to prevent you from spinning.

I am a die hard lock diff fan so my opinion is not accurate.....

Hmm. Gear ratios. Normally a drift set should have a lower than default final drive, and the 3,4,5,6 gears should be closer. This is to give you more revs (and also more power) to play with when drifting.

Brake balance. I advise you to leave it as normal. Once you get more familiar with getting sideways, try to tune the brake balance to be more rear-biased. You would then be able to brake and slide into a corner.

I also have something to add. It is important that you create or get a setup that suits your drifting style. For instance, I am a rather moderate low - to - mid drifting angle type of person... Thus I set my suspension for a rather mild oversteer, rather than a lot of oversteer for a show, or a tad understeer for speed. As far I am concerned, ride height doesn't have much to do with handling, (may have a little, but won't have dramatic changes like to dampers) except having too little will make your car very unstable and seldomly unpredictable. and will eventually ruin the suspension.

I remember reading something when I used to play GT4, which was around 6 months ago. He wrote something along the lines of this

Pros / Cons of High Ride Height

+ Can utilize a soft suspension
+ Easier to drive (soft) for beginners
+ Tolerance for a bumpy road
- Aesthetically disgusting
- Not as aerodynamic

This is what I do for tuning... may differ from others.

As for tuning the dampers, which is what I tune for the handling of the car, dampers, like what my friend g25 said. "They provide the resistance; they damp the force." After getting what I want, I tune the spring stiffness to work in harmony with it. Then I use the sway bars to tune the overall handling of the car, at any given time. Here I tune it to a mild oversteer; I am drifting, and my tires give understeer. At the same time, I don't want to be jamming my e-brake 10 times to get my rear to start sliding .

I generally use locked - dif. but that depends on you, where you are, and what type of driving you are doing. I'd like to use clutch based, but I have yet to learn it. Same applies to the drivetrain, which I've still to tune for good next gear revs. All in all, it depends on your driving, and your style.

To me, there is no such thing as the best setup. I may like flooring it out at corner exit, so I might need a tad of understeer for the corner exit. However, there may be setups that just make more sense than others. More usable . I may also like flooring the brakes, because I don't have delicate braking (I really don't =D), therefore, I'd need to weaken my braking power so that they don't lock, or adjust the brake balance so that my rear don't lock, but they all grip and apply force in harmony.

Do you get where I am going at? Good Luck, and enjoy your drifting here @ LFS.

I´m living LFDrift world sideway´s with massive steerlock and angles all day´s

I need help in brakes....help me plz

this bump made me update the lfsmanual, the drifting section.....i added a second paragraph to each section, and the tuning section i copy/pasted my guide to tuning aswell, somebody please review make sure i did not do anything stupid

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this bump made me update the lfsmanual, the drifting section.....i added a second paragraph to each section, and the tuning section i copy/pasted my guide to tuning aswell, somebody please review make sure i did not do anything stupid

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