#77 - SamH
Quote from MaraZ :Since I can't reply to your PM (I can't even defend myself or what?), here is my reply:



I assume it's some kind of April Fool's Day joke and that there is no way that you would believe I didn't do anything wrong in that 5 lap race?

Ok, here is what happened on that day: I just installed patch W and went to the stcc server. There was map change and it showed "Westhill Club". Great! New track in W! Well, to my (and others) biggest disappointment, we found ourselves on FE Club (look at the times - those are NOT times for XRT on Westhill and qstomek was even faster than me on lap 4 in that race). Did you ban for life every other driver who happened to be on the stcc server that day? Or maybe I'm the only one who experienced this? Anyway giving lifetime ban without throrough investigation is really ridiculous...

We're in a situation where both the licence system and the LFSW information both show impossibly fast laps. The presumption was that you had found a system exploit (there are people who DO find these things) and had used it to gain these times. When the STCC system shows such things, we DO do a thorough investigation. That's when we visited the LFS "mecca", LFSW, and LFSW appeared to confirm the exploit.

We're now assuming that there is a bug within LFS, and are reporting it to the Devs accordingly. Your points have been restored, and you're now unbanned from the STCC.

By way of an apology, we hope you'll all accept the significant points bonus you all received that day for kicking seven bells of pooh out of the lap record for WE1R
Hey since I come on STCC (when the points system is working) does it keep track of my points everytime I come or does it purge it when I leave?
Quote from SamH :By way of an apology, we hope you'll all accept the significant points bonus you all received that day for kicking seven bells of pooh out of the lap record for WE1R

Thanks and sorry if I was "ranting" too much, but you can imagine how I felt after receiving "lifetime ban" for doing nothing, especially on April 1st
#82 - SamH
Quote from MaraZ :you can imagine how I felt after receiving "lifetime ban" for doing nothing, especially on April 1st

Definitely!

It's a huge relief for us as well as you.. given the option, we'll always prefer to believe that everyone in the STCC servers is one of the good guys! So it's a good day for us too

I'm sure Scawen won't be overly happy.. if there's a pattern (I think this is the 2nd, possibly the 3rd time we've found this.. thus a pattern begins to emerge, and it's not just a fluke any more) then there's some bug in the LFS code, and it's always a pain to find those.
Becky, Sam,

I had something similar happen many weeks ago when everyone was still on the V patch. After a track change there were two of us. My connection display showed the other player, but I didn't see his car on the track. The race started and everything seemed fine except that there were no barrels where I normally expected to see them.

As the race progressed, I saw that the other driver was turning in Fastest Laps. He also lapped me but I never saw his car. After about 2 laps I say his car flying through the air. It wasn't from a crash; the car appeared to brake and turn normally, but it was up in the sky. The other driver saw the same thing.

I figured it was just a server screw up. After disconnecting/reconnecting everything was fine. I didn't grab a MPR and didn't think of mentioning it since the problem fixed itself.
#84 - SamH
Yep, what you're describing is the same thing. I'm posting in the Bugs forum now.
Hmmm seems servers are having an error....
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I'm new to STCC licence system and find it very interesting giving a lot to LFS gameplay. Anyway. Today I was racing on Copper and Bronze server with other guys (about 10 players) and it appeared everyone of us got 0 pts for the race. i was 2x 4th and got 0pts. The guy who winned both races I was in also had got 0 pts for the race. I am sure the "formula" for number of points is well thought () however it seems too restrict.
Hmmm. The only change to the scoring in several months is a fairly recent 'ratio' calculation which multiplies your score by the percentage (/100) of the race complete, so if you do half the race you get your points multiplied by 0.5.

Could you tell me how many laps the race was if the circuit had just changed number of laps at the end of that race, and how many people started the race please?

Thank you.
AFAIR there was no change of number of laps. Both races were 4 laps long. On first one there were about 4 players. On second one (track changed due to END RACE vote) there were from 6 (start) to 8 players (end).
With so few players you would not get points for position, only for your lap time.
Could we please get to know the formula for number of points? It would solve many problems.

And 8 players driving on 14 players server is about enough for a good and competetive race i think.
Quote :Could we please get to know the formula for number of points? It would solve many problems.

What problem will that solve?.

Now maybe It's is just me But I get nothing from points or shiny badges , I race on the STCC servers because the racing Is great!, the cleanest racing going and its not just the fast guys, new drivers many seconds off the pace show great race craft and respect.

best reward you can get
This is why I want to race on that servers. However being limited to UF1 and XFG, when in the past when i couldnt buy S2 licence I was driving XFG for long hours, isnt so much fun . Thats why I want to earn some points and race other machines on best servers so far.

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