Quote from deggis :

I'm 30 years younger than you but I wouldn't say any of those bands you mentioned are metal

Well they were,are ,and forever will be for us oldies.

That was metal, and Metallica, Megadeth,Anthrax and Slayer were thrash metal. That's as far as it went.

To now find out theres a genre called medieval troll metal has really ruined my day

Quote :

Heavy metal (sometimes referred to simply as metal) is a genre of rock music that developed between 1968 and 1974.[1] With roots in blues-rock and psychedelic rock, the bands that created heavy metal developed a thick, heavy, guitar-and-drums-centered sound, characterized by highly amplified distortion and fast guitar solos. Allmusic declares, "Of all rock & roll's myriad forms, heavy metal is the most extreme in terms of volume, machismo, and theatricality."[2]
Heavy metal has long had a worldwide following of fans known as "metalheads" or "headbangers". Although early heavy metal bands such as Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath attracted large audiences, they were critically reviled at the time, a status common throughout the history of the genre. As the original wave of heavy metal bands began to wane, the late 1970s brought the New Wave of British Heavy Metal,

Ripped straight from WIKIPEDIA

I'll admit that by TODAYS standards such bands might not be classified as metal, but then again...standards have dropped quite a bit


/me goes and plays some nice soothing background music like Iron Man/War Pigs/Black Dog/Machine Head

Quote from Bladerunner :

Ripped straight from WIKIPEDIA

I'll admit that by TODAYS standards such bands might not be classified as metal, but then again...standards have dropped quite a bit

I have visited that wiki article numerious times

Those bands basicly cleared space for harder rock music in general, of course without those bands there wouldn't be modern noise pollution metal. But can you really say e.g. Zeppelin or Purple sounds more like "metal" rather than rock 'n' roll?

asif this threads still going lol any way, the thing i hate the most is when some1 says
(them)"u like metal?" (me)"yeh but i hate metallica and led zepplin" (them)"how can u be a fan of metal and not like those bands?!"
that really annoys me..... just because i like a type of music doesnt not mean i like EVERY single band in that catagory...
its like when people think they have to have long hair n wear big leather coats because they listen to metal.....
i look more like a chav then a metal head but belive me i am i big metal head:bannana_g:rock_band <--- machine head

Quote from SLIDE WAYZ :

:bannana_g:rock_band <--- machine head

OI!!!11!!eleven!!
You forgot Jon Lord on Keyboards!!!

As for 'looking the part', I have almost no hair, wrinkles, and a stomach to match Clarkson's, yet I was at a Deep Purple concert a couple of years ago, I am considering going to see Scorpions and MSG (on the SAME bill??!) soon.. and nearly wet my knickers when I saw 'Rainbow' advertised to tour the local flea-pit...only to suffer MEGA disappointment when I tried to book tickets and discovered that instead of Blackmore/Airey/Glover etc it was bloody Bungle/Zippy/Jeremy....I nearly cried!!!

One of the problems with popular culture generally, is the degree of identification deemed necessary to enjoy it. I have short-cropped hair, think Tolkien was a tosser, and have no faith of any description (much less Wiccan, or any other new age tripe...)...

But I really like Black Sabbath, Gore Beyond Necropsy, Brujeria, and Abruptum. I know these bands are vastly different once you start the looking at the genre rules that produce them, but I don't care.... I mean, you don't have to be a neo-fascist, anti-semite to like Wagner...

Quote from Bob Smith :

although I'm still not totally convinced the bagpipes fit.

LOL - and that sentence intrigues me....

While the "2000 genres of metal" found nowadays is nothing like the past, I'd say modern metal is far more varied (for better or worse) than it has ever been in the past. People are trying things, mixing dissimilar sounds and generally being far more experimental that ever before. The metal of the 70s does not become and worse or better due to later expansion of the genre, and there are still bands churning out stuff very similar to what they did 30 years ago (e.g. Saxon), albeit with a more modern flavour. There's no point banging on about the good old days, music is always evolving and will continue to do so (and that's true of all musical styles), if metal was the same as it was in the 70s I think the whole thing would have long got rather boring and died a stale death.

the thing that annoys me the most are the new "rock" bands. people like the killers etc.... just because they play their own instruments doesnt exactly mean they are rock.... there are way to many genres nowadays.
eg
metal, emo, screamo, metal core, girnd core. hard core, love metal, dark metal, black metal, death metal.
and some1 said forrest metal? lmao wtf *we play with natures instruments* <- made that up btw lol

Many, MANY modern metalheads love the old stuff too. I personally am not a huge fan of any of it, but there quite a few songs I do love. (Arthur Brown's "Fire" anyone? Awesome.)

I can't understand how someone can be a fanatic of the old ways (music, cars, anything.) and then claim to love anything of the new stuff (tools, technology) as that completely counters their argument. You have to respect everything on all sides as far as I'm concerned. While I may not know all the members of Pink Floyd, I still love some of their music and respect the impact they had on the music scene, and the talent they possess. This is true of most metalheads these days, and of all the younger generation I do honestly think that the metalheads are the most tolerant of any of the major youth subcultures (and I regretably include emo and hardcore in my 'metal' tag. Just this time, though, I promise).

Anywho.. I'm gunna go back to my "As I Lay Dying" album and maybe crack up a skin.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

I don't mean to keep banging on about it, but the mere fact that a genre known as medieval troll metal exists kind-of proves my point from the other day.

To quote the end of "Metal - A Headbangers Journey" (documentation about metal):

Ever since I was 12 years old, I had to defend my love for heavy metal, against those who say it is a lesser form of music. My answer now is: Either you feel it, or you don't. If metal doesn't give you this overwhelming surge of power, and make the hairs stand up on the back of your neck, you might never get it... And you know what, that's ok... Because judging by the 40.000 metalheads around me [Wacken Open Air], we're doing just fine without you...

Posted it with magic ink not to spoil someone who wants to see it himself...

A fine quote bbman