Don't - its overpriced, too hot and too slow

Hi robt,

I have INTEL and AMD options.Its over your budget but I wouldnt buy anything less.I would really think about threwing in more money if there is a possibility.IN case you are really tightened to 240GBP then let me know and I will put something together but 240 is very tight.Its more for office PC then for home/game one.

INTEL option
Motherboard: MB MSI P6N SLI-FI, nForce650i SLI, 2xPCIe, GbE, 1394
CPU: Core 2 Duo E4400 (2, 0GHz, 2M, 800MHz) Box
Memory: 2x512MB DDR II 667 A-DATA Retail double pack
Graphic card: VGA MSI RX1950PRO-T2D256E, 256MB GDDR3/256b, 2xDVI
HD: WD800AAJS CaviarXL, 80GB, 8MB, 7200rpm, SATA/300
Power supply: Tagan TG480-U01 480W ATX2.0 SLi Compliant Silent PSU
Case:Thermaltake VC2000 Mambo

Should be around 390GBP but would be really good investement.
Fast CPU,1Gb of memory is pretty nice for WindowsXP,the above graphic card is the best bang for the money on the market now now and very silent,same sized HD but will be much faster for the system,decent power supply(not overkill) and the case is pretty cheap one but its very well built and really looks nice and decent for the money.

You can still re-use or old HD and CD/DVD drive.

AMD option:

Motherboard: MB MSI K9N Neo-F, nForce 550, DDR2, GbE, SATA-II, RAID
CPU:AMD A64 X2 4800+ EE (socket AM2) Box
Memory: 2x512MB DDR II 667 A-DATA Retail double pack
Graphic card: VGA MSI RX1950PRO-T2D256E, 256MB GDDR3/256b, 2xDVI
HD: WD800AAJS CaviarXL, 80GB, 8MB, 7200rpm, SATA/300
Power supply: Tagan TG480-U01 480W ATX2.0 SLi Compliant Silent PSU
Case:Thermaltake VC2000 Mambo

Pretty same stuf except the AMD CPU and motherboard for that processor.Price estimated 350GBP.Also both systems are dual cores.

As I said if you really cant spend more then 240GBP I will post something later to meet your requiremets but my suggestion would be to spend more.I did that to all my "customers" and they were always happy.Their child as well

P.S:sorry for my english grammar as I know there are a lot of mistakes above but I spent today a lot if time on the phone to fix some issues and talked all the time in not my native language.I am really tired now...

well ive gone for a 8800 gts oc by BFG with a new 600w power supply. arrives friday cant wait

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well ive gone for a 8800 gts oc by BFG with a new 600w power supply. arrives friday cant wait

congrats and sorry for stealing your thread a bit :sorry:

jakg can you tell me if a e6600 will work with my mother board. its a hp computer and the board is a Asus P5LP-LE (Emery2)?

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congrats and sorry for stealing your thread a bit :sorry:

haha no worrys mate

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jakg can you tell me if a e6600 will work with my mother board. its a hp computer and the board is a Asus P5LP-LE (Emery2)?

NO.I am almost sure.

board is a 775 socket same as e6600

AMD change the socket so that ALL xxx socket CPU's work in socket xxx mobo's, but get a lot of flak for this - Intel keep the same socket but only some mobos support some CPU's

is that yes? im confused

can i swap my 950D with a E6600?

No,Jakg mean that it shouldnt be possible with your board.
I know some motherboard with 945chipset support also Core2 Duo but after at least the BIOS update.By the looking at HP pages they didnt mentioned anything about that.

Having 775 socket doesnt mean automatically C2D is supported.IS it due to special power requirement/norms and usually later revions of the board support C2D with same chipset.

Maybe to threw a question on ASUS official forum.I bet someone will answer that but I have high doubts its possible.Sorry

sorry, hijacking again, ill go through the post again and see what i can take out of what you have shown me devil 007, but a quick question u mention the Core 2 Duo E4400 (2, 0GHz, 2M, 800MHz)............and then ive also seen (yes i know its old) a Intel Pentium D 945 3.4GHz/4MB Cache/800MHz FSB. now i know everyone is saying go for dual core, but for things like lFS which dont use a dual core would the pentium processor theoretically be faster then the core 2 duo? and if not, why? as it has more cache, more mhz and the same fsb.

Well the P4 are first very hot CPUs and eat a lot of energy.
Dont be fooled by the Mhz thingy.This could be a place where to look back in Pentium 3 ages but its absolate nowdays.

There is no way that P4 is faster then C2d E4400.

To have some proof check the link please.There is also D945 the one you wanted to compare.About 20percent loose to E4400 in games + E4400 running much cooler,less power hungry.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articl ... re2duo-e6420_7.html#sect0

Hope this helps and I am really sorry for the long bla,bla,blabla above.

Just have been thinking about it again:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ ... duct.php?prodid=CA-026-TT
Thermaltake case VC2000BNS Mambo
£32.89

http://www.dabs.com/productvie ... 50050,48760000,4294954074
MSI motherboard for 775 socket(suuport C2D).
£64.62

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ ... duct.php?prodid=CP-147-IN
C2D E4400
£93.99

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ ... duct.php?prodid=MY-030-GL
Geil 2x512 667Mhz 4-4-4-12 timing(very nice one).
£30.54

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ ... duct.php?prodid=GX-065-HT
ATI X1950PRO from his with thirdpary cooling and Very silent one.
£105.74

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ ... duct.php?prodid=CA-000-TG
Tagan 480W PSU
£56.39

Makets total £384.17.

I have 1 alternative here for 320GBP:
http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=427088#post427088

ATi radeon 2900 XT is out. i'm waiting for the 2600 xt to see how it scores on benchmarks. it doesnt need alot of power as well compared to the 2900xt.

motherboards seem to be a lot. i think mine was half that price easily. runs fine. never had a problem!

This started out as a post for help on graphics cards, but as we all know LFS is cpu-hungry, not GPU.
I got slated last month with geeks sneering at my cheap gpu which was 'well below par' for the rest of the system. Thing is, with LFS, you can use a cheaper budget gpu with no problem as long as you have the cpu power.
The problem then hits with other games where gpu-resources are more important. But we're here for lfs so it's a question of priorities.

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This started out as a post for help on graphics cards, but as we all know LFS is cpu-hungry, not GPU.
I got slated last month with geeks sneering at my cheap gpu which was 'well below par' for the rest of the system. Thing is, with LFS, you can use a cheaper budget gpu with no problem as long as you have the cpu power.
The problem then hits with other games where gpu-resources are more important. But we're here for lfs so it's a question of priorities.

That was me - my PC can run LFS with 8xAA, everything maxxed and get 30 fps with 20 Ai, yet your PC has CPU thats a little quicker (E6400), and yet a GFX card 4x (maybe more) slower than mine - thats a SERIOUS imbalance, yes it will run LFS (an onboard will for christs sake), but you'll be lucky to keep 2xAA going in a full grid.

right thanks for that comparison on the cpu's, going to order a new case cpu and mobo this week thanks again